My Iya enu sound

[vasikgreif]

Hi everybody, I'm still strugling with my Iya enu sound. I made fardela, it made things better, but I still get kind of strange buzz in the sound - I made recordings of it with different mic placement, hope you can hear it there

http://pracovni.vasik.net/iya_1.mp3
http://pracovni.vasik.net/iya_2.mp3
http://pracovni.vasik.net/iya_3.mp3

Any ideas what to do?
Thanks

[vasikgreif]

Here are some photos after removing the head:

http://pracovni.vasik.net/1.jpg
http://pracovni.vasik.net/2.jpg
http://pracovni.vasik.net/3.jpg
http://pracovni.vasik.net/4.jpg
http://pracovni.vasik.net/5.jpg

[windhorse]

So, you're replacing the head? Or just taking it off to look for a source of buzz and remounting?
I couldn't hear any buzzing in your mp3s, but I believe you. Usually that's something with the skin, not the wood. But, with the head off, you could tell if it's the wood.

I will be replacing all of my bata heads. He mounted all of mine without pulling the crown rings down away from the bearing edge! I can understand if you live in a wet climate and they pull down with time.
But, I'm in a dry climate, and the heads shrink rather than stretch! So, we actually had to loosen the rings right up into your hand's playing area! Mine are completely unplayable!

Such a waste to get new drums and right away replace the heads..
Seems you have to pay a penance for owning the most beautiful sounding bata.

[vasikgreif]

I'm not going to replace the head, not now at least, I removed the head just to look what's inside? You really cannot hear that strange sound, so you think it sounds like it is supposed to sound?

[bongosnotbombs]

[bongosnotbombs]

Sounds like a Iya to me, but it also sounds like your technique is a little off.
It sounds like you are hitting the iya like a conga.

I also think I tune mine a little lower than that.
Someone once said to me "An Iya should be felt more than heard".

[Congadelica]

So, you're replacing the head? Or just taking it off to look for a source of buzz and remounting?
I couldn't hear any buzzing in your mp3s, but I believe you. Usually that's something with the skin, not the wood. But, with the head off, you could tell if it's the wood.

I will be replacing all of my bata heads. He mounted all of mine without pulling the crown rings down away from the bearing edge! I can understand if you live in a wet climate and they pull down with time.
But, I'm in a dry climate, and the heads shrink rather than stretch! So, we actually had to loosen the rings right up into your hand's playing area! Mine are completely unplayable!

Such a waste to get new drums and right away replace the heads..
Seems you have to pay a penance for owning the most beautiful sounding bata.

Hi Dave .
Just an idea , have you not thought about soaking the skins for half hour then turning them to a point playable .as they dry back them off a little . Its just an idea . it may work and save you 6 re laps .

M

[vasikgreif]

Sounds like a Iya to me, but it also sounds like your technique is a little off.
It sounds like you are hitting the iya like a conga.

I also think I tune mine a little lower than that.
Someone once said to me "An Iya should be felt more than heard".

Can you please be more specific about technique? I have a fardela ring on it, and I'm hitting the head with the whole flat hand... If I can remember correctly, when we were by Thomas Altmann, he got similar kind of strangness in the sound... I naturally tried and would like to tune it little lower, but then I don't like the sound at all... Could you record your Iya sound?

[bongosnotbombs]

Sounds like a Iya to me, but it also sounds like your technique is a little off.
It sounds like you are hitting the iya like a conga.

I also think I tune mine a little lower than that.
Someone once said to me "An Iya should be felt more than heard".

Can you please be more specific about technique? I have a fardela ring on it, and I'm hitting the head with the whole flat hand...

That description sounds like the proper technique, so perhaps I was mistaken.

Here is a recording of my Iya. It is tuned lower and I do not have fardela on the enu.

http://rapidshare.com/files/357181656/STE-002.mp3.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/357180260/STE-003.mp3.html

[windhorse]

Hi Dave .
Just an idea , have you not thought about soaking the skins for half hour then turning them to a point playable .as they dry back them off a little . Its just an idea . it may work and save you 6 re laps .
M

Yeah, you mean stretching the heck out of them while wet.. Then, you have the problem of ripping and thinning thus weakening the skin..

[vasikgreif]

That description sounds like the proper technique, so perhaps I was mistaken.

Here is a recording of my Iya. It is tuned lower and I do not have fardela on the enu.

http://rapidshare.com/files/357181656/STE-002.mp3.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/357180260/STE-003.mp3.html

Your Iya is actually tuned little higher than mine, if I can hear correctly, but that doesn't matter for now. The sound has basically the same character, so maybe I just have to play it more and it will break in by the time... Someday I will buy the traditionally tuned bata, as can be seen in Lenguaje del Tambor DVD, because I love both kinds of sounds...

[bongosnotbombs]

Anyways, I'm glad it helped you out, all the way from San Francisco to Czechoslavakia.

Amazing to think about the technology today....

[Jose Marquez]

when I bought a used set of LP batas, i also noticed a buzz and crazy overtones. Of course they had the cheap factory stock skins. Instead replacing the skins and experimenting with other techniques, I simply sold those suckers and got me a set of Isla batas, and wow what a difference! My Islas had the familair sound i was used to hearing in many great recordings.

BNB, i know you have Isla batas too, do you know the exact kind of skin they use. Is it mule?

[bongosnotbombs]

BNB, i know you have Isla batas too, do you know the exact kind of skin they use. Is it mule?

I don't think it is mule. The skin on my bata is not similar to the different kinds of mule I have on my bongos.
The bata skins are more like the skin on my quinto, which was cow.