Posted:
Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:28 pm
by pcastag
I'm not trying to discredit him, just stating that self-proclaimed master drummers usually aren't. Masters usually have that title bestowed uopn them by their students or peers.
PC
Posted:
Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:47 pm
by zaragemca
First of all Saludos to all the brothers in percussion,..To Pcastag,..if you are in Houston,and have never find me in here,it is your problem not mine,I have been in here since 1997,and you shouldn't open you mouth so easy,until you get to really know somebody,I have enough students and musicians which really know me which are the one categoring me as Master Percussionists,so I don't care what is the thinking of the people which have never come to my Training Place,or have been performing with me.I don't have to be chasing anybody which come to Houston,( I was born in real Rumberos/House),this is an statement that not many percussionists even in Cuba could make),so if somebody call me to play in some place,(as it happened before many times),I go to play ANYWHERE..I'm not playing with a Salsa Band right now,(becouse I could play in any band,not just Salsa),and now I'm performing with a Santana Tribute Band,and a Reggae Fusion Band, and also with DJ's,(when not playing with this bands)..But I did my share of Salsa,when playing here in Houston,with Foncho Castellar,(Colombian),Los Vasos Tropicales de Willy Figueroa, Sol Caribe,Grupo de Shuy Colorado,Sonora Santa Ana,etc..I have performed with my Drumming Ensemble in Rise Univ.,.. Univ. of Houston,.. Texas A & M Univ. Galveston,..(Clubs),...Spy,Lotus Lounge,Live Sport and Cafe,Soleros,Prague,F2 Lounge,Brisky Blue at Galveston,Helios,Joia Club,Mantra/Lounge,Fitzgerald's,Corporate Events,Westheirmer Festival,Houston International Festival,Bob Marley Festival.Galveston Beach Festival,Houston Community College festivals,and Private Parties..And I'm the founder and one of the teacher at International Club of Percussionists,and some of my students are right now playing with Salsa,Rock,African Ensembles and Jazz Bands... I have articles,..'Zaragemca's Brief on Jazz',..'Zaragemca's bongos,Congas,Timbales and Bata'...'The Foundation of Drumming','Classification of an Advanced Drummer'.etc..Dr. Zaragemca
Edited By zaragemca on 1138048282
Posted:
Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:40 pm
by pcastag
Helo, I'm not discrediting you at all, merely stating that calling one'self a "master" is a bit outrageous. I've been looking for a legitimate bata instructor in Houston for some time, and have been unable to find one. Me imagino un tipo como tu que nacio en casa de rumberos sabe algo de bata? I'm glad to hear that you have had such success in your musical life, good luck to you. Just because one in born in Habana does not make tham "masters" of percussion. You conozco La Habana, y tambien conozco bastante cubanos que no saben nada de la musica de los barrios, o de guaguanco, bata, iyesa, arara etc. I think some people on this board would feel more comfortable with your contributions if you were a bit less forceful with your statements. I have studied cuban music with some of the best, Alberto Villareal Penalver, Michael Spiro, Skip Barney etc., yet I don't consider myself by any means a "master" percussionist, which is how you signed off in one of your posts.
PC
Posted:
Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:57 pm
by zaragemca
The whole point is that I'm talking about something which I know,you are talking about something which you don't know,becouse you don't know me,(mentioning name to me is not going to impress me neither),if I'm going to start mentioning names of the individuals which were teaching me,or the ones which I was observing to learn,(when I was in Cuba),I have to take the whole week to write it down,so it is easy to figure out who's wrong.The situation that you are looking for somebody to teach you Bata is not my foult neither,buena suerte y bienvenido al forum. Dr. Zaragemca
Edited By zaragemca on 1138298935
Posted:
Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:30 pm
by 82-1089072427
Hola,
Zara.... you still can't spell... can you...
RumBa808
Posted:
Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:38 am
by pcastag
No problem, I understand your reluctance to verify your sources for your info.
PC
Posted:
Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:17 pm
by pavloconga
R808,
Aside from all the stuff that is being said on this thread and whether it's true, false or just plain misunderstood (and which I'm not going to comment on – more than enough has been said already). I think it is unfair to criticise someone's spelling (The Dr Z in this case) especially when it is not their first language!
For example: Try spelling everything correctly in a language you are not so familiar with.
peace
Pavlo
Re: polymetric
Posted:
Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:20 am
by Assaf
davidpenalosa wrote:
Rumba is poly-metric; it has both duple and triple subdivisions of the beat (4/4 and 6/8). Yambú and guaguancó have a primary meter of 4/4 and a secondary meter of 6/8. Columbia has a primary meter of 6/8 and a secondary meter of 4/4.
-David
David, can you perhaps explain a little of what you mean here, or direct me to an article that might assist?
In my experience we think of Yambú and Guagancó as strictly duple (4/4), though the quintero may lay on some phrases in 6/8. When we play guanguanco very fast then it might develop a bit of a 6/8 feel, esp if the kata player pushes a 6/8 feel, but we still think of it as 4/4. So what do you mean by "primary meter of 4/4 and a secondary meter of 6/8"?
Similarly when we play Columbia, we think of it as 6/8, but the quintero might play some 4/4 phrases. Usually we will use the traditional Columbia Kata, which is 6/8, but sometimes the we might use a guaguanco Kata played with a 6/8 feel.
Re: BATARUMBA DOS
Posted:
Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:42 am
by Assaf
Btw when I wrote 'we' above, I just meant 'the people I play/study with etc'.
Re: BATARUMBA DOS
Posted:
Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:47 am
by Assaf
possibly of interest to some members here, re the good Dr. Z:
http://www.youtube.com/user/huerocongueroHe does seem to spend a fair bit of time talking to himself on internet forums though.
Re: BATARUMBA DOS
Posted:
Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:06 am
by OLSONGO
All I can say, for all the talk there is no walk.
Tempo suffers and no swing, as I know how Cubans like it.
Paz
Olsongo
Re: BATARUMBA DOS
Posted:
Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:34 pm
by drummerflash
I invite you all to
http://www.myownimage.net/BAGVid1.htmlI welcome your comments.
Glad to have found this forum, and Alafia!
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