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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:57 pm
by OLSONGO
Any ideas on how to rope a bata.

Gracias OLsongo

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:10 pm
by JohnnyConga
Get in touch with Ezekial Torres the brother of Dancer Neri Torres thru her company "Ife Ile" in Miami.. Hei s a Batalero and a "maker" of Bata drums....he could help you....google Neri Torres for her site..."JC" Johnny Conga.... :D

PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:59 pm
by OLSONGO
JC, Tried to get to Ezekiel but no responce, anyways I applied something that looks half way decent; take a look at the pic.
The string with the black specs, slides up and down.

Paz OLSONGO




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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:42 pm
by JohnnyConga
I would say u did a GREAT job in roping it ...."JC" Johnny Conga...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:10 pm
by OLSONGO
JC I started with the mali ,( I think that is what is called ) Djembe ropping technique and instead of making triangles I came up with the squares by trial and error.
Paz OLSONGO.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:58 pm
by tamboricua
Olsongo,

Here is Ezequiel Torres website:

Ezequiel Torres

Hope this helps!

Saludos,

Jorge Ginorio

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:23 am
by Roka
Olsongo,

What kind of skin is on this drum ?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:42 pm
by Thomas Altmann
Hi Olsongo,

that's really hard, if not impossible to explain. But here's another picture:

http://www.ochemusic.de/fotopg2.htm

I must say, I have changed this (Havana style) lacing, which usually applies to leather strips, to the V- or X-style associated with Matanzas drums. It looks similar as these drums of the Chinitos now:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/19679072@N00/185827427/ .

Thomas

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:35 pm
by davidpenalosa
I have seen djembe artisans re-head bata drums for many years. I don't mind djembe roping patterns substituting for the bata rope system, but it's been very difficult to get the djembe artisans to take the hair off the skin! The drum head in the photo posted by OLSONGO clearly shows that dang hair! Thomas' photo shows no hair. Why is this so hard for djembe artisans?!
-David

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:15 am
by Roka
davidpenalosa wrote:Why is this so hard for djembe artisans?!

Mounting a new skin on djembe you put it with hair and only then you shave off hair.
So, some parts of the skin (near edge, rims, etc) remains unshaved.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:31 am
by Roka
Can anyone provide me measures of Bata drums ?
I would like to make a set (just for fun as I like carving and djembe roping style is not a big deal).

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:03 pm
by davidpenalosa
Roka,
I understand the djembe technique for removing hair from the skin, but I wish that the bata technique of removing all hair prior to mounting the head (as is done with conga drums too) would be used with bata. Just my own personal pet peeve.
-David

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:38 pm
by yusef33
Hi I'm new to this forum and I would like to share some info regarding the purchase of some really great sounding Bata drums made by ISLA PERCUSSIONS. My Brother (Mario) and I have been experimenting with drum shell shapes and materials for the past 3 years. We believe we've come up with a product that is as close as you can get in regards to sound to the cuban ceremonial(Bata) and rumba(Congas) field recordings. We did not compromise the tone(sound) for asthetics and playing practicality for the drummer.
These drums must be played or heard to really understand and appreciate the amount of energy that was exerted in research and development.
I am posting a photo of the ISLA PERCUSSION bata set that I currently possess.

Pili@ISLAPERCUSSIONS

http://www.islapercussions.com/


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:41 pm
by yusef33

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:49 pm
by yusef33
Here is an early generation bata set that can still be produced upon request. The difference is the Iya's (cha & enu dimensions). Somewhat more of a hybrid (Nigerian/Matanzas/Guanabacoa/Havana) stew.

Peace and Blessings..
Pili, Mario and the ISLA PERCUSSIONS family.


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