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Postby OLSONGO » Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:57 pm

Any ideas on how to rope a bata.

Gracias OLsongo
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Postby JohnnyConga » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:10 pm

Get in touch with Ezekial Torres the brother of Dancer Neri Torres thru her company "Ife Ile" in Miami.. Hei s a Batalero and a "maker" of Bata drums....he could help you....google Neri Torres for her site..."JC" Johnny Conga.... :D
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Postby OLSONGO » Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:59 pm

JC, Tried to get to Ezekiel but no responce, anyways I applied something that looks half way decent; take a look at the pic.
The string with the black specs, slides up and down.

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Postby JohnnyConga » Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:42 pm

I would say u did a GREAT job in roping it ...."JC" Johnny Conga...
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Postby OLSONGO » Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:10 pm

JC I started with the mali ,( I think that is what is called ) Djembe ropping technique and instead of making triangles I came up with the squares by trial and error.
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Postby tamboricua » Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:58 pm

Olsongo,

Here is Ezequiel Torres website:

Ezequiel Torres

Hope this helps!

Saludos,

Jorge Ginorio
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Postby Roka » Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:23 am

Olsongo,

What kind of skin is on this drum ?
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Postby Thomas Altmann » Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:42 pm

Hi Olsongo,

that's really hard, if not impossible to explain. But here's another picture:

http://www.ochemusic.de/fotopg2.htm

I must say, I have changed this (Havana style) lacing, which usually applies to leather strips, to the V- or X-style associated with Matanzas drums. It looks similar as these drums of the Chinitos now:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/19679072@N00/185827427/ .

Thomas
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Postby davidpenalosa » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:35 pm

I have seen djembe artisans re-head bata drums for many years. I don't mind djembe roping patterns substituting for the bata rope system, but it's been very difficult to get the djembe artisans to take the hair off the skin! The drum head in the photo posted by OLSONGO clearly shows that dang hair! Thomas' photo shows no hair. Why is this so hard for djembe artisans?!
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Postby Roka » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:15 am

davidpenalosa wrote:Why is this so hard for djembe artisans?!

Mounting a new skin on djembe you put it with hair and only then you shave off hair.
So, some parts of the skin (near edge, rims, etc) remains unshaved.
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Postby Roka » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:31 am

Can anyone provide me measures of Bata drums ?
I would like to make a set (just for fun as I like carving and djembe roping style is not a big deal).
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Postby davidpenalosa » Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:03 pm

Roka,
I understand the djembe technique for removing hair from the skin, but I wish that the bata technique of removing all hair prior to mounting the head (as is done with conga drums too) would be used with bata. Just my own personal pet peeve.
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Postby yusef33 » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:38 pm

Hi I'm new to this forum and I would like to share some info regarding the purchase of some really great sounding Bata drums made by ISLA PERCUSSIONS. My Brother (Mario) and I have been experimenting with drum shell shapes and materials for the past 3 years. We believe we've come up with a product that is as close as you can get in regards to sound to the cuban ceremonial(Bata) and rumba(Congas) field recordings. We did not compromise the tone(sound) for asthetics and playing practicality for the drummer.
These drums must be played or heard to really understand and appreciate the amount of energy that was exerted in research and development.
I am posting a photo of the ISLA PERCUSSION bata set that I currently possess.

Pili@ISLAPERCUSSIONS

http://www.islapercussions.com/


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Postby yusef33 » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:41 pm

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Postby yusef33 » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:49 pm

Here is an early generation bata set that can still be produced upon request. The difference is the Iya's (cha & enu dimensions). Somewhat more of a hybrid (Nigerian/Matanzas/Guanabacoa/Havana) stew.

Peace and Blessings..
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