Djembe and guaguanco - Recordings?

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Postby Mike » Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:50 am

This topic doesn´t get us any further I think...

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Postby akdom » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:21 pm

To go back to the topic, there are two different things that could be played on the djembe (eventhough I really do not understand the need to play Afro Cuban music using west African instrument).

If, as you said you want to play the quinto part, then it's easy (assuming you understand the rumba groove) since the quinto only improvises.

if you want to play the basic rythm and replace the conga and tumba by a djembe, then just keep in mind the melody of the guaguanco and invent your stuff.

A guaguanco as played by Tomas Cruz can be adapted on a djembe.... But once again, why would you want to do that?


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Postby zaragenca » Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:20 pm

I did it with a full knowledge of the structuration of the Guaguanco and only use the Djembe for soloing and again by my own research,(with started when I was still in Cuba), I'm the first with the understanding and of the pattern which incorporated that instrument for the professional performing of the Guaguanco...and the first one to introduce it,(Djembe),in the Ethiopian Music..So regardless who is going to eat his heart or cry about it I got the pioneer/crown.Your brother.Dr. Zaragemca
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Postby burke » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:14 am

Well theres a new title eh?
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Postby pcastag » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:33 am

uhhhh, interesting.
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Postby Garvin » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:21 am

Well, the original reason that I started this thread was just because of some involvement between one of my old west-african teachers and a little afro-cuban group that use to play together. I was just wanting to know if there were any recordings of someone soloing in guaguanco with a djembe. I got some good feedback, then the inevitable happened. Thanks for the feedback...
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Postby akdom » Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:50 am

Garvin wrote:Well, the original reason that I started this thread was just because of some involvement between one of my old west-african teachers and a little afro-cuban group that use to play together. I was just wanting to know if there were any recordings of someone soloing in guaguanco with a djembe. I got some good feedback, then the inevitable happened. Thanks for the feedback...

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If your teacher is from West Africa, he just needs to listen to some recordings. He will easily manage to adapt what he hears into the djembe style.

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Postby zaragenca » Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:21 pm

If he is from West Africa, and want to memorize what he could hear in the Guaguanco Ensemble, to imitate the articulation, is ok,but he could not understant what is the foundation which the 'Die Hard Rumberos', were using to create,(not to imitate),but to create the soloing articulation...The same would be for a percussionists to play Araras/rooted articulations in the Djembe,without knowing the foundation of that drumming in that civilization.,( a pattern could be heard in the CD's. and be memorized), but he would not be able to understand any meaning of it.Dr. Zaragemca
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Postby Garvin » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:37 pm

Of course... No one would ever be able to understand the meaning of the articulations without the foundations of civilisationalistic aboriginal doctoral application of the correct cultural and historical perspectives that should always be combined with the articulations.
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