tamboricua wrote:Laurent, carefully take a listen to the Orlando Poleo Timba pattern #1 sound example. The clave is definitely played "cruzao" in the sound example.
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Jorge Ginorio
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Laurent Lamy wrote:tamboricua wrote:Laurent, carefully take a listen to the Orlando Poleo Timba pattern #1 sound example. The clave is definitely played "cruzao" in the sound example.
Saludos,
Jorge Ginorio
http://www.rhythmweb.com/jorge
Not definitively Tamboricua! I'm sorry but I continue to say the clave is not cruzao in this example. To play the low conga on the part 2 of clave is current in this style. It is about a voluntary reversing. If it was to play a son montuno, I would agree but it is not a rhythm for son montuno or for the salsa. Other Cubans also showed it to me like that. Poléo showed it to me like that... So
The "father" and the "creator" of many of these "Timba" patterns is a tumbador named Juan Nogueras "El Wickly".
Take a listen to NG la Banda, "En la Calle" cd, you will find all these patterns all over the place.
Guest wrote:Thank you very much for looking into the clave issue for me. Tamboricua y Laurent, its folks like you that help the music by sharing with those of us who are less experienced. Thanks.
Also, I'm in the process of editing a folkloric video that Tomasito Cruz recorded here in the fall. Its got Bata, Rumba, Palo and a few others. As soon as its finished I'll let you know.
I'm glad to hear that Tomasito is getting a name for himself. Not only is he a world class percussionist but also shares freely with all those who want to know.
Guest wrote:Also, I'm in the process of editing a folkloric video that Tomasito Cruz recorded here in the fall. Its got Bata, Rumba, Palo and a few others. As soon as its finished I'll let you know.
Guest wrote:Thank you very much for looking into the clave issue for me. Tamboricua y Laurent, its folks like you that help the music by sharing with those of us who are less experienced. Thanks.
Also, I'm in the process of editing a folkloric video that Tomasito Cruz recorded here in the fall. Its got Bata, Rumba, Palo and a few others. As soon as its finished I'll let you know.
I'm glad to hear that Tomasito is getting a name for himself. Not only is he a world class percussionist but also shares freely with all those who want to know.
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