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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:49 pm
by Laurent Lamy
What is the 6/8 rythm on congas do you prefer ?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:58 pm
by zaragenca
Well brother Laurent,..to me it would be in relation of the musical phrase of the rest of the rhythms/section and which is the parameter which I would like to incorporate for the interaction with them.Dr. Zaragemca

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:46 pm
by CongaTick
Yeah, Dr., but which one do you PREFER?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:36 pm
by hueroconguero
for me, i love the 6/8 bembe. i play it on 3 drums (quinto, conga + tumba)

(as taught to me by dr.z)

huero

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:13 am
by Derbeno
Yanvalou and also orchestrated Palo

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:27 am
by Tone
I would be very curious to see or hear that orchestrated palo.
Could you share it with us?

Never heard of yanvalou. Is it Cuban?

My favourite lately is fast and driving Afro blue type stuff with split hands.
Also love playing bata adaptations of Ñongo.

The fluidity of 6/8 is always great fun, it seems that one can play faster with out sounding clutered or overly busy.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:00 am
by Derbeno
You set me a hell of a task, I searched on line and just could not find good examples of Yanvalou for you. I dare not load what I got for fear of copyright issues.
Yanvalou is part of the Rada rhythms family of Haiti.
The best I find is the link to these samples on Amazon by Bonnie Devlin.
http://www.amazon.com/Action-....&sr=8-2
Check track10 in particular and track 3

Re Haitian rhythms here are a couple of free full length downloads
http://www.bongamusic.com/cds_kanzo.html
Check out track 3, Petwo rhythm. Bonga's main site could be of interest.

When I refer to orchestrated, I meant when you play it in a traditional group with each person playing their part on one drum be it requinto, quinto, conga etc

How's things in good 'ol London? I am there in soon and have already booked up a two hour session with Daniel Mazarro over at PlanetDrum in Camden. I will ask him if I can post the wrap up summary on youtube.




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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:59 am
by Laurent Lamy

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:10 pm
by Tone
Hi Derbeno,

I have to change my profile, I have moved to Rio since last September.
Say hi to Daniel for me I used to be a regular at the Sunday rumba sessions in East London. Try to go if you can, many of the cats in London are hanging there.

Could you write down the orchestrated Palo, I love this rhythm, I know the various parts but would be interested in a good three congas transcription.

I will check those links you posted.

Thanks!!

tone

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:30 pm
by Tone
this Yanvalou is really nice and groovy!!!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:41 pm
by davidpenalosa
Hi all,
I thought I'd just point out for those who are not aware, the Haitian Rada system (yanvalou rhythm) comes from the Fon ethnic group of present-day Benin and Togo. In Cuba Fon music is known as Arara.
-David

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:49 pm
by zaragenca
Welcome CongaTick,as 'Huerocongero' said,there are some patterns which I teach for the purpose of getting my students proficient in the 6/8 structure,but I would use it an articulation in relation of what is the musical phrase of the bass line and other percussion instruments involved.Dr. Zaragemca

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:41 pm
by CongaTick
laurent,

very, very nice. for a guy like me that 6/8 groove gives me a lot of meat to chew on. thanks for your medley post.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:29 pm
by Derbeno
Talking about 6/8 rhythms, check out this most remarkable piece with a very young Celia that Guarachon just posted.

Any of the subject matter experts know which Batá rhythms these are please?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eY1kPICHli4




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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:40 am
by Laurent Lamy
Listen the 6/8 in the middle of this video ! I like very much his style of latin-jazz 6/8. This guy is french : Emmanuel Bizeau.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LtQNO5ZJtE8




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