Palm/Tip

[Derbeno]

just to add, the exercise that Abakua does in one of the videos is actually the "Single Drag" rudiment, consisting of

R ll-R / L rr-L (the small lefts and rights are the "ruff"

Thanks Laurent, I downloaded the video to my HD.

You probably have it but just in case, here is also a slower demo by south paw Martin Gort of what Firebrand is describing:

It's in Dutch but self explanatory. Adjust to a right handed player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpgTySq_8lw

[ABAKUA]

Hi guys, had a few requests on the previous page for the vid to be put back up, so I finally got a chance to re upload it.
Hope it helps you out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Gk_wIDxPhPY

[Tone]

I just wanted to try and clarify something that could be very confusing to most people.
The techniques showed by Abakua and Zunzun are not the same!
The idea is the same : to play a fast palm tip with one hand while playing single strokes with the other.
However Zunzun uses an open tone technique where the palm tip actually produce open tones on the edge of the drum( which is the same technique used for doubles and rolls), while Abakua uses a bass/tip combination with the whole hand on the drum.

They are both right and they can be brth called mano secreta, but they sound very different and they require a completely different technique.

Practise both, on both hands.
That's what I do!

peace

[Laurent Lamy]

However Zunzun uses an open tone technique where the palm tip actually produce open tones on the edge of the drum( which is the same technique used for doubles and rolls)

You have not completely reason. I do not use the same technique for the rudiment " dad mom ". Changuito showed me this movement (that of the video mano secreta " as a heel/tip played the edge but to produce two open sounds. Do you want a video to show the difference ?



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[Diceman]

Laurent,

A video would be cool!

suave

[Coco]

Yes please Laurent!!

Thanks also to Abakua!

[Laurent Lamy]

Here is the promised video!


Mano Secreta in detail



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[ABAKUA]

Laurent is correct,

in reply to "Tone's" post:

at faster speeds it would appear as a "double" style technique. However, essentially the method Laurent and I use are the same.
In my video I demonstrated the fundamental movement, for beggining the mano secreta technique. From there you develop the technique to open tones using the same heel tip motion as seen in Laurent's clip.

PS. Great clip Laurent!!

[CongaTick]

Laurent,

Thank you so much for posting that great video clip. That really helps a lot. Please leave it up. Not all of us can download it. Great job!!! That's the kind of selfless instruction/tip that will hopefully continue to characterize the professionalism of this forum.

[Mike]

Here is the promised video!


Mano Secreta in detail

Yes, thanks a lot, Laurent! Really helpful work!!!

BTW I also liked your other videos very much.

Many greetings, brother in conga

Mike



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[Amber]

Hi Laurent,

all the time I was wondering about what kind of movement people here are talking. Now I understand. Thank you very much for this excellent and helpful explanation! Great!!

Best regards,

:p Amber

[JimG]

Let me add... a great big light bulb going off here! I always thought it was a double roll movement... now it feels right.

Gentlemen, thank you. merci.

Cheers,
Jim

[G-Man]

Laurent and Abakua,

Thank you sooo much for those videos!! So many of us on this forum really appreciate what you have given us.

It's what makes this forum and you guys ROCK!!

G

[JohnnyConga]

Hey G-man i also downloaded a couple of vids on the conga camp page...check it out!....Johnny Conga..

[JohnnyConga]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7Vx5us1xg48

Johnny Conga...