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Posted:
Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:31 pmby CongaTick
Here's one I came up with, though entirely possible it may be a modification or part of something that already exists. Seems to work well with funk and pop, but can't tell if it's of any clave-value. Pros?
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http://mycongaplace.com/forum/eng/uploa ... attern.JPG
Posted:
Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:34 pmby CongaTick
Sorry for the lack of notation knowledge and mastery.
Posted:
Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:42 pmby Diceman
CT brother,
Only 14 notes to the bar. If you put in the 'no notes' with a dot maybe, to make up 16, we can see how it flows. Or maybe mark the down beats above the notes.
Looks like it could sound like a hot groove
suave
Diceman
Posted:
Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:42 pmby Whopbamboom
I'm not sure that it HAS to be in 4/4 time.
If all the notes are of equal value, I can read a pattern that says
"one two THREE one two three one two one two ONE two three four"
or
"one two THREE one two three one two THREE FOUR ONE two three four"
Or possibly other similar feels, depending on where you place your accents. I am not personally all that familiar with traditional latin beats yet (at least not by name), but I am somewhat familiar with assymetrical rhythms and changing meter. You can make some nice swinging grooves by playing with stuff that doesn't fit neatly in 4/4.
Posted:
Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:23 pmby Diceman
Point well made Whop,
I just assumed that most pop and funk was in 4.
suave
Diceman
Posted:
Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:14 amby Whopbamboom
Well, you have a great point there yourself!
So what should the notation be for 4/4 then? What notes are onger and what notes are shorter?
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Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:45 amby Charangaman
I play this sometimes in a funk situation..
Oo tsths oos otstOOtso
R r lr ll r l l r . rl rl RR lr l
Or something like that.... ???
Edited By Charangaman on 1187183977
Posted:
Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:54 amby CongaTick
sorry guys, I'll try it again. Thanks for the tips.
Posted:
Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:10 pmby Diceman
Whop,
With 4/4 each bar should be divided into 4, 8, 16, 32, 64 etc, and each subdivision should either have a sound or 'no sound'. Sound is shown with a note and 'no sound' is either shown with a rest sign or is covered by the the type of note ie a whole tone, half tone, quarter tone etc. which is usually shown by the tail of the note. This will show the the gap between sounds and where they will be played in time.
However, where the stave is not used, as drum sounds are short, a silence should be indicated by a dot, a dash etc. So long as they add up to 4, 8, 16 or 32 etc.
EG Son Clave |x--x--x-|--x-x---|
Rumba |x--x---x|--x-x---|
Sorry it is a whole study, but I hope that helps.
suave
Diceman
Posted:
Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:17 pmby CongaTick
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Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:24 pmby Diceman
Nicccccccce one CT
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Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:38 pmby Whopbamboom
Diceman, I am very familiar with rhythm notation. My last question was simply trying to coax more info out oof Congatick in order to attempt to decipher his original notation in a 4/4 context.
Congatick, could you decipher that original notation in the format "1/8-1/8-1/16-dotted 1/8..." etc., or whatever it is, so I can see it exactly as it should be?
Posted:
Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:08 pmby Diceman
No offence meant Whop, just got the wrong side of ambiguity.
Check out CTs rewritten line
suave
Diceman
Posted:
Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:17 pmby Whopbamboom
I see that one, but there are now two extra notes that weren't there before. That confuses me. Was the original notation missing them, or?
Also-- are these straight eighth's? Or are some notes longer than others?
Posted:
Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:21 pmby Amber
Hi,
good idea Conga Tick, I will add this to my "tumbao collection".
:p Amber
