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Afro Blue

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:42 am
by studio7conga
Anyone have any advice/notation/etc on playing Mongo's rhythm from Afro Blue? Notably how all of the heel-toe motions fit together with the open tones... Hoping to get it eventually. Maybe you can help.

Re: Afro Blue

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:14 pm
by KidCuba

Re: Afro Blue

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:02 pm
by davidpenalosa
KidCuba wrote:Maybe this might help...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC-V-lKAAkg


This guy is from the branch of the "old skool" which doesn't have the facts quite right. It was excusable back in the day, but no more. In North America, ñanigo was used as a generic term for 6/8 rhythms. Nanigo is actually a derogatory Afro-Cuban term for abakuá. The Abakuá are descended from the Efik people of southern Nigeria and northern Cameroon. Abakuá are not descended from the Yoruba.

The first rhythm he shows looks like a 1960s NYC adaptation of a Haitian yanvalu part, and the second part is the Cuban bembé cachimbo part.

For "Afro Blue" you can basically play any 6/8 rhythm that emphasizes the six beats across clave. In the original version by Mongo, several abakuá parts are used, and Francisco Aguabella solos using abakuá bonkó phrases. In subsequent Mongo recordings, the rhythm resembled bembé.
-David

Original version of "Afro Blue":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbE7jf_Hp5w

Re: Afro Blue

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:15 pm
by JohnnyConga
This first video is one version that Mongo played his pattern....and the second version of how Mongo also played it and Im playing along with Mongo...

http://youtu.be/MiZjlq8t9_0

http://youtu.be/Jf5tRCG-7x4

Re: Afro Blue

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:46 pm
by KidCuba
Sorry, it was not my intent to be Insultive or distribute incorrect information. Thanks for the response.

Re: Afro Blue

PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 12:48 am
by davidpenalosa
KidCuba wrote:Sorry, it was not my intent to be Insultive or distribute incorrect information. Thanks for the response.


Hey, no worries. I hope I didn't come off too pedantic or scolding.
-David

Re: Afro Blue

PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:03 am
by KidCuba
davidpenalosa wrote:Hey, no worries. I hope I didn't come off too pedantic or scolding.
-David


Not at all, we are all looking for solid information, it is good to get a correction before one continues to pass of erroneous information.

Re: Afro Blue

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:27 pm
by Hawker
Points well made and thanks for the solid info. However, the guy's teaching style is infectious. :)

Re: Afro Blue

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:24 pm
by Tone
I am sure someone must have asked this before but...
what's with the gloves JC?

Re: Afro Blue

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:50 pm
by niallgregory
Tone wrote:I am sure someone must have asked this before but...
what's with the gloves JC?


He gets cold in the winter :D Hes getting old ! :wink:

Re: Afro Blue

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:25 pm
by JohnnyConga
Hi Tone..just so u know gloves have been worn while playing in different ways...Anga used gloves on congas for a recording session, going for a much softer quieter sound...My reason is my hands stay cold and when i did the videos it was done in my attic where it was cold...Kalani is now marketing "conga gloves' for kids now .....playing with gloves also cuts down on the sound for practicing...I can get a slap with gloves on as well...can you?.... :D ...hahaha...

Re: Afro Blue

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:30 am
by Tone
I bet you get a nice muff!!
In the old days if you slapped someone with a glove, it would be a dare to a duel...and that wouldn't be with congas :lol:

Re: Afro Blue

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:45 am
by davidpenalosa
Hawker wrote:. . . the guy's teaching style is infectious. :)


Agreed. Can't help but like the guy.

Re: Afro Blue

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:59 am
by studio7conga
davidpenalosa wrote:
Hawker wrote:. . . the guy's teaching style is infectious. :)


Agreed. Can't help but like the guy.


Looks like he's a professor at Dartmouth. http://www.dartmouth.edu/~music/faculty/shabazz.html

Re: Afro Blue

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:59 pm
by Joseph
Congaplace's CongaBook has notation and two variations for AfroBlue.
From the index menu, go to Rhythms > Cuba > AfroBlue.
Also has an audio file to hear the notated rhythm.