LP Gio Galaxy vs. Palladiums?

[onile]

here's one more of 'la barriga'

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[gilbert]

Hey yourself! :laugh:

... Pretty much the same ...

They really are about the same in sound quality. The metal rings encircling the palladiums
don't affect the sound - unless they come loose and rattle! :p

Same hardware, same wood, same skins. Bigger size available with palladium.
( ... must (gasp) have (gasp) supertumba!!)

Peace,
Cap'nQ

Sorry man i'm not convinced of what you're saying because they are different in shape and in size and that affects the sound

so think again in your answer

[captainquinto]

Palladium & Galaxy Conga Similarities:

Palladium height: 32"

Galaxy height: 32"

Wood of both Palladium & Galaxy: Ash wood

Conga Heads: All Palladium & Galaxy congas use hand selected rawhide skins

All have Patented Extended Collar LP Comfort Curve® II Rims

All have Premium Galaxy hardware
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Palladium & Galaxy Conga Distinctions

Four Steel bands rap around the Pallaidum series congas. No steel bans rap around the Galaxy wood congas.

One of the main differences to the Palladium and Galaxy Series are the sizes (HEAD SIZES)

Each model offers four sizes - three sizes are the same - 11", 11 3/4" & 12 1/2" - but the fourth size of the Palladium is a 14" Super Tumba and the fourth size of the Galaxy is a 9 3/4" requinto.


So ... the differences are not HUGE. Also, you wanted to know if anyone has compared the two and I have.

The galaxy's are what I play and have logged a few hundred hours on. Therefore, when I sat down and played
the palladiums for about 5 hours I had a pretty good reference in mind.

However ... I appreciate a certain amount of healthy skepticism and think that you should play
each of them for a few hours yourself.

Hope I have been of some help, at least!

Peace,
Cap'nQ

[captainquinto]

Side by side pic's:

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[captainquinto]

palladium's:

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[ABAKUA]

gilbert, have you played these drums? If not, then you must take the benefit of the doubt. Capt Q has played both sets, as have I.

Apart from the 3 Classics I own, I also own 3 LP Palladiums, 2 of my students own Giovanni Galaxy's as does the drummer in one of the bands I play with also.

They are virtually identical drums, same wood, same skin, same hardware.
Only that the Palladiums are 2 inches taller (at 32") than standard LP drums (30") and slightly larger body also. (apart from the super tumba which is far wider)
The only difference in sound is that obviously due to the size of the drums, there is more projection and perhaps louder with the Palladiums. I have done large gigs with both sets of drums, under amplification, the difference is noticeable on to a fellow conguero.
having said that though, I much prefer my Palladiums over any other drum I have owned/played. They are heavier, but the sound I get from them is amazing.
The Giovanni Galaxy's are great drums also, as are Classics etc.
If you can get the Palladiums with good skins at a good price, and dont mind having to carry larger, heavier drums, then I say go for it.


In the end, its your money and your sound and your preference.
Play both sets in teh store for a while, see which you like best, go with what feels right.
All the best, good luck with your purchase and have fun!






The Super Tumba (14.5 inch head) at its widest section in the belly (not considering the area around the lugs - just the belly) it measures 1m, 45cm around the belly.








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[steady freddy]

Hey Gilbert,

like my mate Abakua says they are both good drums.
But I like to suffer a bit so I got the palladiums, hehe!
On stage you're just happy you carried the load!

Happy Drumming,
Steady Freddy

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[Tonio]

Online, thanks for the Fats pics !!! Mui Bueno!!

Capn' Q, Abakua, Steddy Freddy -thanks for the pics. I'll have to have a long playing seesin @ my local GC, to see(hear) what I like better.

Tonio

[onile]

Alafia Tonio!
Hey, no problem bro, whatever we can do to help ya' in your decision!
Oh! Also, just a minor point of reference................

I know better than to take offense at this, but I think it's important enough to point it out mi pana!

It's "O n i l e", not "O n l i n e"

Many blessings my friend!

Onile!

[Tonio]

Onile,
Sorry about that bro!! I'm not the best typist in the world :;): Rather play the drums.
T

[onile]

No ay pa'que Papa!
Not a problem, keep on drummin'

As far as getting out to the nearest GC, I don't know 'bout San D', but out here in the Desert, the GC's don't seem to carry any Palladiums in their store!

In fact, I have recently gone into the store that's by my house (three blocks away), and they seem to have a multitude of toys, off brand percussion stuff, and very little LP stuff! Go figure! I guess they have a plan behind it, but I don't see it!

Suerte mi pana!

Onile!

[gilbert]

Hey

10ks for your replies

BUT

I've got the Meinl Mongo Santamaria Special Edition Congas
They are great but i can only play them in traditional music
they dont fit in any other music(Pop,Funk,arabic...)unless i play them with synthetic heads which i dont want to do

As for The LP Gio
I need something thats fits in all music,
i played the Gio Galaxy they were great in all aspects(volume,skins,sound range...)

and Due to my Experience on Different Percussion Brands since i work in many Music shops i know that when you Go taller (32" vs 30") and Wider you get more Bass and Low Mid Frequencies and you loose that High Projection

So i think as for The palladium after hearing alot of recordings on them i found that their sound is close to the meinl Mongo Santamaria congas

I hope i explained my point of view correctly ???

[ABAKUA]

Due to my Experience on Different Percussion Brands since i work in many Music shops i know that when you Go taller (32" vs 30") and Wider you get more Bass and Low Mid Frequencies and you loose that High Projection

So i think as for The palladium after hearing alot of recordings on them i found that their sound is close to the meinl Mongo Santamaria congas

I hope i explained my point of view correctly ???

Im sorry Gilbert, but I could not disagree with you more.

The Mongo Santamaria Meinls, are no comparison to the LP Gio Palladiums.

If you look closely in one of my pics you will see 2 Meinl Mongo series between my Classics and my Palladiums.

I had the opportunity of testing them out at a rehearsal and large afro cuban performance and was utterly dissapointed with their sound, as were the other musicians in the band I was playing with and also several other latin percussionists who were at the venue observed the Meinls. No one was impressed. While the Meinls had good wood, nice finish and good hardware, their sound and projection lacked crispyness, volume and had little if any projection compared to my Classics and my Palladiums.
An opinion which was echoed by all the latin percussionists present that night.

I have toured extensively with the Palladiums, Classics and Gio Galaxy's. Their projection, crispyness and sound are second to none.

When you know how to tune drums correctly, in particular the Gio Palladiums (which use more lugs) the projection is unbelievable. I am one of very few conga players to own the Palladiums in Sydney, percussionists who are at my gigs are always blown away by their sound and projection.

I even turned down a Meinl endorsement because I would not sacrifice my sound over free gear. I cannot endorse something I do not believe in, nor can I reccommend them to my students as I am simply not impressed by them.

Even after extensive tuning sessions with the Mongo drums and experimentation in seating settings, both on wood and carpet, and also on stands, they simply are not even on the same level as the Gio Galaxy's, Classics, and Palladiums as far as sound projection, tone definition and clarity.
The LP's are in a totally different ball game and far ahead of the Meinl Mongo's.

Even our member here 'Pidoca' who is a Meinl endorser was blown away by the projection and sound of my Palladiums when he was over at my house for lessons.

I mean not to offend, but sincerely believe you are mistaken in your view.



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[gilbert]

thanks for your help

and back to the Topic

does palladium fit in all types of music like galaxy ?

[ABAKUA]

I have the Palladiums and the Classics, and I work in the following genres with bands/dj's: Cuban Timba, Funk, Salsa, Rock, Acid Jazz, Reggae, Ska, Hip Hop, R n B, playing along with DJ's and a few others... I have played with groups for over 15 years and began my conga journey 20 years ago, I have played almost every main brand and style of conga made, in my opinion, the Palladiums are the best congas I have ever played or owned. Furthermore, I believe them to be the best congas in the world.

I dont mean to offend with the following, but I cant put it any simpler... The Gio Palladiums/Galaxy drums do not limit you to the style/genre you can play, it is your knowledge of music, knowledge of the style, your skill level and tuning expertise that will limit you.