Mics! Boom or Attached to the drum! - Do most congueros prefer boom mics?

[onile]

By the way hermano El Boni!

Here is a pic of the mic itself, easy clip on and off!

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[onile]

Also brother El Boni, here is a pic of the Beringer Mixer, you would only need one input to the "main" PA used by the group (referencing your message about the drummer taking a good portion of the inputs for his/her rigg). You could mic your rigg, mix your own sound and send the signal to the PA and be done with it!



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[Diceman]

And the new UB1202FX mixer coming on the market end of October, has on board effects (FX), and costs about the same as one e604....59 pounds!!!!
Onile, I recall in another of your postings, that you use some in ear monitors, do you have any more info on those?

Cheers brothers

Diceman

[onile]

Alafia Brother Diceman!
I only wish that I had the expertice of jumping around this forum like brother Abakua, he knows exactly where previous posts are at, and how to post a link to them. Incredible!

But, since I can't do what he does, here goes.....

The in-ear monitors I use are these;
Shure E2 High Energy Earphone
The E2c features a high energy driver in a distinctive comet-shaped enclosure that creates fuller, richer sound than any earbud is capable of producing. The insightful mechanical design of the E2c is a result of Shure's years of experience with working musicians, resulting in an affordable in-ear earphone that provides excellent isolation from background noise.

They actually are the lower end of the line ($99.00), the prices get higher for the better ones, but that's for you to decide which ones you want to invest in.

I bought an adaptor for them and connected them into the "phone" jack on the Beringer Console. The tricky part however is getting a line in from the Main PA, you would be totally self contained if you can make it happen!



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[Diceman]

Thanks Onile,

Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience, its what his forum is all about. I'll give them a go. I have to say that being in control is, as we say in England, 'the dogs bollox', which translated means-rather good.

sabor
Diceman

[El Boni]

Yeah, and thanks for the pictures: now I know what I'm looking for. Actually I happened to see these in a studio after seeing your photo, and think I'll definitely be investing in a set (the mics that is). Then maybe a mixer.

gracias de nuevo

B

[onile]

Alafia brother El Boni!
I hope that you are well my friend!

I happen to be checking out Ebay last night before going to bed, and found a set of 3 E-604 mics for $291. You might try looking there for a bargain if it suits your fancy, I'm always looking for bargains myself!

In anycase, I wish you many blessings mi pana!

Onile!

[ABAKUA]

I only wish that I had the expertice of jumping around this forum like brother Abakua, he knows exactly where previous posts are at, and how to post a link to them. Incredible!

But, since I can't do what he does, here goes.....

Thought I could hear someone mentioning my name... :laugh:


Cool you guys use your own stuff, I guess if sound presented a problem it would be the way to go....

I'll share a little of how I operate....


With my 2 main bands, we use our own sound engineer (same guy) for every single gig, no matter how big or how small. Our quote to promoters, venues etc, includes our own sound engineer as part of the cost of the band, like an additional member, every single time.

Since we have built the reputation we have in this business here and created the demand that we have, we can afford to do so.

So, no matter where we go, our sound guy looks after us all with our every request down to the smallest detail.
Our sound is always perfect out front and up on stage.
I never have an issue with fallbacks/wedges, I always get my own send, and as many mics as required depending on my set up/what is required.

I guess I have it pretty good, and I am truly thankfull for it. I have enough shit to carry to gigs without having to worry about mics/etc etc.. And I know that I will always sound good out front also.

[onile]

Yeah, Boy!
Que Pasa Abakua!
Yeah you sure heard me talkin' bout cha bro and your expertice! You da' man!

You know, a few years ago, in fact quite a few years ago I worked in a group that had a sound guy, the best thing a band can have! I currently work with an orquestra which on occassion, does what you mention in your post (charges for a sound guy as though he were a member of the group), it's part of the contract, however I have to say it's usually the leaders brother, and he's no "Irving Greenbaum" if you know what I mean!

I just take precautions to ensure that I have some control over the sound!

It's great to hear from you again mi pana!

¿Ay cariño o no-ay cariño?

Suave!
Onile!

[Diceman]

Abakua, good to hear from you man,

You are one luckysonofa, but if, like me, you play with whoever pays, you need control over your sound in those situations. However I do play in one band which has a Colombian sound guy as a member of the band, and I too would trust him. That is the ideal.
My microphones, mixer and leads will fit in a padded bag which goes inside my tumba, so space not an issue, just a bit of extra weight.

So long as we get the sound we want, we can be confident that we are not the sweaty one on the end waving his arms around for no reason.
My two euros
Diceman

[BongoBob]

I'm joining in to this post a little late but I thought I would respond. I also use a Beringer mixer. I put 3 congas in the XLR's along with the bongos. I use Audix D2's on the congas and a D1 on the bongo's. The 2-1/4" inputs I put top and bottom djembe mics, D2 top, D4 bottom. I can set the EQ with headphones from the mixer and send the mix in stereo,2 channels, to the sound board. I use an AKG c1000 as on overhead to pick up all the other stuff. Our engineer likes this for live performance because it frees up his board, only 3 inputs instead of 7. It sounds great, not studio quality but good enough for live.

[ABAKUA]

Abakua, good to hear from you man,

You are one luckysonofa, but if, like me, you play with whoever pays, you need control over your sound in those situations. Diceman

Thanks man.

I once did alot of freelance work, but as of the last 2 yrs or so, I find myself passing on all my freelance work to students of mine or other percussionist friends of mine.

Fortunately for me, my 2 main bands are consistantly working non stop and we find ourselves booked pretty much thursday through to sunday every week and well into next year also. Add in twice, sometimes 3 times weekly rehearsals and alot of commitment, you get a pretty farkin tight and cooking band.

Hopefully steady freddy will host the DVD clips I sent him a while back....

[onile]

I'm joining in to this post a little late but I thought I would respond. I also use a Beringer mixer. I put 3 congas in the XLR's along with the bongos. I use Audix D2's on the congas and a D1 on the bongo's. The 2-1/4" inputs I put top and bottom djembe mics, D2 top, D4 bottom. I can set the EQ with headphones from the mixer and send the mix in stereo,2 channels, to the sound board. I use an AKG c1000 as on overhead to pick up all the other stuff. Our engineer likes this for live performance because it frees up his board, only 3 inputs instead of 7. It sounds great, not studio quality but good enough for live.

Alafia BongoBob!
I hope that you are well and in an abundance of blessings!

It's great to hear you getting so much mileage out of your Behringer!

For the longest time however, I was sending out a "mono" line out to the main PA (thinking it would do the trick), I recently however tried using a "Y" (connecting both left and right sends to it and sending yet still "one" line to the PA). Traditionally, I've used only my XLR connections (4) to mic my congas (3) and on occassion when I have them on a gig, my bongoes (1). As for the first 1/4" input, I've connected the line-in from the PA, and used the in-ear monitors to be able to get my own monitor mix.

So, if I understand you correctly, you use two outputs, Left and Right (sending two lines, XLRs) on the main PA, is this correct? Interesting! So tell me, the D-2 and D-4 you use on your Djembe, are you using a 1/4" adaptor at the end of your XLR cable, or are you using a specific XLR to 1/4" cable to connect to your mixer? Are the mics unbalanced? or does this not become a concern?

I still have 8 - 1/4" connectors left on the mixer to learn how to use.

Many blessings!

Onile!



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[onile]

Alafia Abures!

I also wanted to share with you all the case that I got to keep my Behringer relatively clean and safe with all of the hauling around; I purchased it for around $50:

It's perfect for the size, fits the beheringer perfectly, along with the adaptor (power), and has pockets for your ear monitors (if you use them, or ear phones), also the cables you would need to send out your signal to the PA. Very compact and convenient!

You can see this case at the following site, shop around though to see if you can get a better deal.....
http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-BOS%20BRBAG.html

Many blessings!
Onile!



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[zaragemca]

Greeting, I'm also getting into this post late,....to Dicemen,(I know that isn't your fault),but somebody told you wrong,placing 'clamp'on microphones' is not going to affect any reflexion from the rod/system, becouse a mics clamp isn't going to create more pressure in it than the pressure created when you are tighting the bolts to tune the congas,(it is a simple physical equation),all the rod/system does is to tune the conga,the articulation of the sound/wave interaction which create the sound, is happening between the skin and the shells,what the rod/system does is to affect the vibration of the shells,(as more number of bolts in the rod/system,as less vibration for the shells),I'm glad I catched this one!.Dr. Zaragemca



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