Mics! Boom or Attached to the drum! - Do most congueros prefer boom mics?

[BongoBob]

Onile,

My mixer has 2(L&R)-1/4" main outputs, I just plug in a 1/4" cord into a direct box on each then to the snake. I can pan the congas if he wants which sounds cool. As for micing the djembe, I use XLR-1/4" cords from each and they work fine. I do need to turn up the gain on the mixer, more then with the congas.



Edited By BongoBob on 1130449216

[onile]

Excellent BongoBob!
thanks for the information, I'll experiment with it some more and try this out.

Suave!
Onile

[+pablo+]

Hola...I would sure like to hear your discussion/inputs on what EQ settings you guys use/prefer? Is it different for conga and tumba? Someone once mentioned a little reverb helps. Also, Bongobob, have you ever tried using the D4 on the tumba?

Thanks, +pablo+

[onile]

Alafia +pablo+!
Espero que todo este bien contigo!

As far as the EQ I prefer, well for the rigg that I use, 2-Tumbas and 1-Conga, I like the bottom sound, so I take most of the "hi" off, as well as the "mid" also of the left and right drums (tumbas), my central drum (conga), I give a bit of a different mix to. I give it a bit more "mid" and "hi" but keep the "lo" constant in the mix as well. I find that this gives it more dimension in the sound.

To illustrate this, think of the dials on the mixer as a clock, 12 o'clock being straight up, or straight ahead and 1 o'clock being just to the right. On the tumbas, I set the "hi" at around 10 o'clock usually, and the "mid" at around 9 o'clock, with the "lo" there is a slightly different mix for the drum on my left (being my lowest drum), this one I set at around 7 o'clock, the one on the right is usually around 9 o'clock. Now, on the behringer there is a button right next to the "lo" dial called the "lo cut," I have this pressed down, which actually gives the drums eq a fatter sound in my opinion. On my main drum (conga), the "mid" is usually set at around 12 o'clock, with the "hi" at around 11 o'clock, and the "lo" at 9 o'clock!

My central drum (my main one) is #1, the drum to my right is #2, and the drum to my left is #3 (#1 being the highest, #2 the middle, and #3 the lowest tuned drums).

I hope that this makes sense.....

Suave!
Onile!



Edited By onile on 1130674643

[BongoBob]

Hey all,

I have a quinto, conga and tumba and I have found that I like a flat EQ on all the drums. Sometimes I push the lows on the tumba. Keeping everything on 12:00 I get the full range of every drum. You get all the little taps, heel/toe whatever you do. It is more like what you hear naturally coming off the drum.
On my Djembe I have 2 mics, top & bottom. The top I put the high at about 1:00 and the mids at 11:00 the lows 9:00. On the bottom reverse that, lows 1, mids 11 and high 9. I have not tried the D4 on the djembe yet but that is on my list to get and put it on the bottom. Right now I use an old Nady kick mic on the bottom, which works pretty good.

[trickyricky]

Thanks for info on mixer, I'll have to start saving my pocket money!!
I cant argue with the boom vs clip discussion, as many good players use clip ons.
Have you seen the multi mic clamp, it works for me on a boom stand and could probably work on a single clamp--just one clamp on, two/three mics. It would certainly cut down on weight, or you could use the other clamps for holding drinks and an ashtray

My two pence.
Sabor
Diceman

Hey Diceman, Thanks for the information. Where can one see/buy one of the multi-mike clamp-ons? Is there anything online?

[Diceman]

Hi Tricky,

I got mine on Ebay. Onile shows a picture of a different type on another thread, but I cant find it.
Can you help Onile?

Cheers
Diceman

Diceman

[onile]

Alafia Abure Diceman and Trickyricky!
I hope that both you brothers are well and in an abundance of wonderful blessings!

Here is a website where you can see the various devices that I had posted a while back, and don't feel bad brother Diceman, I have a bad time trying to remember where the heck a post is at.

Anyway check this site out and you'll see both of them here!

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7....2
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7....3

Here is yet another site for a different mic thingamabopper (please, this is the technical term, I am a paid professional, therefore you should not try to pronounce this without proper supervision)

http://www.amazon.com/exec....=glance


Many blessings!
Onile!



Edited By onile on 1133228137

[trickyricky]

Thanks Diceman for the info on both posts. I got online and found a couple. BUT I think I have how I am going to set up the mics now anyway. Thanks again my brother.

....and thanks and blessings to you too onile. Those are the ones I found.
Peace,
trickyricky



Edited By trickyricky on 1133227923

[El Boni]

Hey Diceman, Onile, happy new year guys (and to all on the forum while I'm at it!).

I've been looking at the clips on the E604 and wondering if they'll fit on the so-called 'comfort-curve II' rims on my classics. It looks like the 'tongue' on the top of the clip protrudes quite far, and there really isn't much of a gap between the top rim edge and the head on my congas. (That's right, I still haven't got around to buying any decent mics! Ready now though). Any experience on this?

B

[onile]

Alafia Abure El Boni!
I hope that you are well and in an abundance of blessings mi pana!

I too have had the same issue with the "comfort curve" rims, and no the clip on mics don't work well with them. I did solve this problem quite well and securely with the following device though!

http://www.frontendaudio.com/Audix_D....411.htm

Shop around online and see if you can find them a bit cheaper, but that's the same price I paid a few years ago when I bought them. They work really well, and the Sennheisher E604s work really well with them. You just have to remove the internal mount adjustment from the bottom of the mic (I used a dime), then it screws right onto the gooseneck portion of the attachment. Once you've done that, you just attach the mic onto one of the tension rods and viola! It's ready to go! Okay, it does take away from the "clip-on" benefit, but there is still the 'compact' benefit to it. You just have to tighten the little vice onto the tension rod now!

Suerte!
Onile!



Edited By onile on 1136816214

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[El Boni]

Aha, muy bien! This looks just the thing, and also solves my concerns about the e604 clip making the mic intrude too much over the head when I use it on my bongo (don't have 'em yet, but guessing this might be a problem). So glad you solved this problem before me so I don't have to!

Think I'll shop around though as you say. Bit confused by the frontendaudio site: "list price, $12.95. our price, $24.00!". Sounds like a great deal! ???

muchisimo saludos

B

[franc]

onile,
like always!! hope you are doing great. mi, bro!! i don't know a thing about sound. tell me what is a mixer?? is that what they call the head in sound set up?? you know, ,amps, speakers and so on. also do you know a web site where i can learn about sound and so called mixers? my best, franc

[onile]

Alafia Abure Franc!
I hope that you are well and in an abundance of blessings mi pana!
It's always great to hear from you and read your posts!

As for what a mixer is, it's a piece of equipment which helps us to take the sound of our instruments via mics and cables, pass it through the mixer and be able to adjust the sound as true to form as possible. That's a very condensed description of what it is/does. I believe abure Caballoballo, ¿Qué pasa mi pana?, is very adept at 'sound' and pa/mixers, hopefully he'll read this and chime in with his expertice on the subject!

I'm not really sure if there is a spot/site online where one can go and learn more about it, but someone here might know of a place! ¡Disculpa Pana!

La bendicion!

Respetuosamente
Onile!

[Tonio]

Don't know if this is getting off topic, but...

A mixer is basically a device that mixes line, mic and other outboard devices that can route them seperatley and/or together to multiple destinations depending on its design.

OK lame terms, you can input a microphone, other line instruments (keys,gtr etc) and "mix" it up to a destination (speakers) or tape deck.

In live venuses they use a PA system, in a sense is a mixer.

T