Will purchase Bauer set!

[skinslapper]

My Bauer tumbao has arrived from lithuania .
The conga i pick up monday from the post office .
Needles to say how thouroghly pleased i am .
She stayed in my hallway to aclimatize overnight .
I took the head of , cleaned the nuts relubed them and put her together again this morning .

But i've noticed the put rubber protectors between
the shell plates on the in and outside .
I verry much wonder if this has any influence on the sound .

I am tempted to take the rubbers of and try without them
Any body has any experiance with this ???
My feeling says i'd be better of without these rubbers, but i don't know .

[Mike]

But i've noticed the put rubber protectors between
the shell plates on the in and outside .
I verry much wonder if this has any influence on the sound .

I am tempted to take the rubbers of and try without them
Any body has any experiance with this ???
My feeling says i'd be better of without these rubbers, but i don't know .

Why would would you want to remove the rubber protectors?
It is a good sign that they are there, they will save the shell from the
sideplates sinking in the wood. And the rubber will not interfere with the
sound whatsoever.

Happy slappin´, man!

[Anonimo]

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[skinslapper]

@Leedy & mike ...Gues your right.

Anyway i think i forget about the hole thing .
I've played the whole afternoon and she sound sooooooooo NICE !!!

[Jerry Bembe]

The rubber gaskets between the side plates and shell can promote the resonance of the shell. If the side plates and the metal plate or washers have rubber gasketing underneath the hardware then the shell has less dampening of the overall resonance. The Meinl Floatone employed this principal of floating hardware but without any pennetration of the shell by any bolts or screws.

I have had success with floating hardware with Oak congas but some of my Mahogony congas became so resonant that there were overtones to deal with that I had to later resolve. The string with a cloth or towel across the interior of the conga resolved this overtone issue. (just use opposite bolts inside and stretch a string with a cloth attached and this will help manage shell overtones without affecting the fundamental tone)

I personally believe that floating hardware is the best for congas.

[drum4fun]

I personally believe that floating hardware is the best for congas.

Sorry for the dumb question, but can you explain what 'floating hardware' is please?

[Anonimo]

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[GuruPimpi]

Check the Meinl web site, congas, floatune model...

[Jerry Bembe]

I personally believe that floating hardware is the best for congas.

Sorry for the dumb question, but can you explain what 'floating hardware' is please?

Not a dumb question.

What I am refeering to is isolating the shell as much as possible from hardware affecting the resonance of the shell. The shell is is secondary for resonance with the head being the primary resonanting aspect of the drum. The Floatone and Del Cielo had the hardware completely isolated from the shell to maximize this aspect.

I have adapted the Floatone and Del Cielo floating hardware concept to conventional hardware that is mounted by bolts or screws in drilled holes in the shell. I have found that using rubber padding or foam mounted underneath the hardware on the interior and exterior of a conga will maximize the shell's resonance with this conventional hardware.

This means I have to remove the hardware and remount it with this rubber isolating medium underneath (solid or foam rubber will do).

I have found this to be successful with Oak congas but I have had secondary issues with Mahogony congas being almost too resonant. With Mahogony congas this hardware isolation has allowed shell overtones to come out in some cases. The hardware originally dampened these overtones and when the hardware was isolated from the shell then the overtones became evident. When these overtones occurred, I used a string mounted on the interior by opposite sides by the hardware and I suspended a cloth or towel to eliminate these overtones. This string method does not affect the fundamental tone but controls the secondary overtones.

Feel free to ask any additional questions.
Jerry

[KING CONGA]

I personally believe that floating hardware is the best for congas.

Sorry for the dumb question, but can you explain what 'floating hardware' is please?

A picture is worth a thousand words.
Here is a nice set of Congas withthe flotune system. Note, no drilling on the shells.
Hope this helps.

[GuruPimpi]

Any pics from Del Cielo congas? Any one has them here?

Keep on grooving!

p.

[GuruPimpi]

Never mind, i found them here on forum, I thought that I would see som e other pics... Real beauties and seems they are still pretty rare...

[Jerry Bembe]

Mantino on this forum is continuing the Del Cielo line. Mantino purchased Sky's equipment recently and has begun production of his own line of solid shell congas that he claims perform like a "Marimba key" for resonance. The solid shells are kiln dried and there is special attention to the shells to adress the shrinkage and cracking issues associated with solid shells.

He is currently modifying the Del Cielo tuning and crown to a traditional crown with the tuning hardware not so close to the shell. I have heard this directly from Mantino but I have not seen it yet.

I would consider Mantino the current expert about Del Cielo on this forum. Sky is still alive but he has retired from producing his fine congas.

[skinslapper]

(by Jerry Bembe )What I am refeering to is isolating the shell as much as possible from hardware affecting the resonance of the shell. The shell is is secondary for resonance with the head being the primary resonanting aspect of the drum. The Floatone and Del Cielo had the hardware completely isolated from the shell to maximize this aspect.

Interresting, i thought this to be the other way arround .

Today i've played my new Bauwers the whole afternoon the sound verry nice.And are not even fully tuned yet .
But i've noticed that the rims are slightly bigger then they should, i think .
I wonder if this going to be a problem in the future .
As the rim wil shift a bit to one side, in time, i presume .

I am also thinking of replacing the rims with soft curve rims from LP .
I never liked soft rims much, but sinds i bought a LP Conga with a thik soft curve rim , i've reconsiderd .
To me this rim seems to divide the tension on the skin more evenly sinds it dous not slightly deforms.

[Jerry Bembe]

Please share a picture of your concern possibly someone my have an idea to share regarding your concern with the (rim) crown size. Possibly just tuning in the star pattern will help maintain even pressure and avoid slippage to one side.

Enjoy your fine congas. Bauers are very expensive in the US and can be difficult to find. I have found Bauers available but I have never seen a full set of 3 or 4 of the same style. I like their traditional model by the photos I have seen. I would love to see, hear and play a set in person.

I might have to leave the US for this opportunity.