8 year old classics - how does the drums age affect it?

[baffleson]

Hello, all. Ive been lurking for a while now but I finally have to post to ask you brothers and sisters a question.

I have an opportunity to buy an 8 year old lp classic. Im wondering what 8 years will do to a drum. Is it the shell itself thats important?
How much does completely new hardware for something like that cost? Does hardware take a beating over time? or is it pretty solid? Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Thanks all
baff

[onile]

Ahhh! A stocker! :p :laugh:

Alafia Baffelson!
I hope that you are well and in an abundance of humor as well as blessings!

LP produces some pretty durable drums, the rest is up to the owner though. How well did they take care of their drum? If it's minor scratches, or dings, they're repairable. The hardware, well the worst that can happen there is a bit of tarnish of the chrome. The head however, would probably make a big difference in the sound if you were to buy and replace it. I actually have, as well as some other players on this forum, have drums that are much older, and are used quite frequently for gigs, but you will see that we all take very good care of them, they're our money makers!

I must say however, that unless you're picking this drum up for pennys on the dollar, dirt cheap, anymore now, "new" drums are to be found quite cheap. The market is open for bargains everywhere! Shop around, some of the guys on this forum may even have some drums up for sale, who knows!

BTW! Welcome to the forum, now tell us a bit about you dammit!

Stay well!
Many blessings!

Onile!



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[baffleson]

Hi, awesome thanks for the reply... the conga would cost me about $210 usd shipped... what do you think about that? Is that pennies on the dollar?

Me: I play for fun. Unconventionally. Improper style. I've recently been learning some official styles of conga playing and its fun fun.
I definately want to get a set that sounds good and makes me want to play them. Crappy drums dont have much pull. I had a set which consited of some kind of Toca tumba (wood) which was the reason to play em' cuz it sounded so good to me; and a fiberglas meiln something or other with a bent rim. They were very fun but I sold em to when i MOved from vancouver. Now I want a conga and a tumba that are precise and nice. Im looking at the classics but am wondering how much I am paying for the name. Ive also looked at the very high end such as the Timbas and the palladium. Any other recomendation? Any experience with the timbas?

thanks hand slappin bro
baff

[onile]

Vaya Baff!
Once again, welcome!

You know, the Palladiums are interesting to play, I have four of them, two Supertumbas 14" and two Tumbas, 12 1/2". I'm seriously thinking of unloading them. I tried selling one of the 12 1/2" tumbas on Ebay, unfortunately I didn't get a bite! I was asking $500 for it, the prices are generally around that price if you shop around. I just am not as impressed with them as I thought I would be. Don't get me wrong my brother, they have a really nice sound, but I also have other drums which have a nicer sound in my humble opinion.

I recently received one of a set of three brand new GonBops (two Supertumbas 13 1/4", and one Tumba 12 1/4"). I changed the head on the SuperTumba that I received almost immediatley, and Wow! The sound is so deep and sweet! I don't have a need for the Palladiums any more! I actually use them when my students come over, I use them to teach with. I think as we all get familiar with our equipment, we have our favorites! As for the Timbas, I can't offer you any direct experience there, although the primary reasons for my ordering the Palladiums was two fold, for one; it was the first 14" drum LP has ever made to my knowledge, and second; I like the Cuban looking bands on the drum. Timba has this down pretty well with their selection.

I'm sure that if you shop around you can find LP Classics going for less than $350 in some cases.

Good luck in your search for a good drum.

Many blessings my brother!
Onile!



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[baffleson]

Blessings to you too bro. May they all find you.
I am curious. Why duplicate tumbas ect. I have big hands and like to play big drums. Im not even lookin into a quinto. I am wondering is 11 3/4 is also not neccesary? Should I just go all out on the big drums? LIke a 13 and a 12 or something? what do you think.

burning,
alex

[caballoballo]

Hola Baff,
Most of the Conga players down here in the beautiful Island of Puerto Rico use 11 3/4 & 12 1/2 ,that is about their most common size around here. About age on drums,I have an 18 year old Valje Bongó made by Lp. If I am not playing he is inside his case and even during gigs I always put him in his case while we on break. I know that is not the case with congas because they are big but if you take good care of your drums,they will last along time.

Onile,
How is the winter over there ? Next week we have 1 gig an then we have 2 on the mid month weekend. How busy is this hollyday season where you at ?

[onile]

Alafia Caballoballo!
¡Espero que todo este bien contigo mi pana!

Chacho! Si el invierno nos esta pegando ya. We're around 38 degrees in the night, and 68 or so in the day! But, hey we're tolerating it! Aside from those who have "steady" gigs, the ones like myself who work the "luxory resort" circuit, well how is the saying......"¡Estamos comiendo un cable mi pana!", work is kinda slow right now!
It's always great to hear from you Caballoballo, siempre me traes buenas noticias de la isla bonita que es ¡Puerto Rico! "Que bonita bandera!.....Que bonita bandera!..... Que bonita bandera, la bandera Puertorriqueña!

Vaya Baffleson!
To answer your question, it's one of preference, meaning the size of drum you play. I enjoy playing on all of the real estate a drum head has to offer, my hands are relatively large, but I also love the deep bottom of a drum (the sound). I prefer to play with two tumbas and maybe a conga, if not two supertumbas and a tumba! All a question of preference!

You can tune, as I have, a tumba up to a point and get a great sound from it, not quite like the quinto (that would be a mistake), but more so like a conga. If you work your technique right, you can also get a really sweet "slap" on it too!

Many blessings hermanos!

Onile!



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[onile]

Vaya Caballoballo!
Chacho! Right after I posted the previous message about giggin' out here, I got a call for a gig for this Friday! It only pays $100, but I'll take it! Yeah boy!

Que Papa Dios te bendiga mi pana!

Onile!

[rumbaman]

Hey blessings to all of you my brothers . Baff i have an old pair of meinls that i have been playing for about almost 6 years now . I take exelent care of them . You have to check the wood inside that it is not cracked or anything like that , otherwise i think the age would not matter if the drum has been taken care of .That's why i'm scepticall about buying stuff thats used with out actually looking at it.


rumbaman

[captainquinto]

Bienvenidos voyeur baffleson :laugh:
glad you decided to join us!

As stated, it mostly depends on how they treated the drum. If the wood is in good shape with no cracks
and you don't need to replace the skin right away, then $210 shipped is not a terrible price.
I'm a proponent of learning on "decent" instruments before sinking big money into the professional ones.
I guess I've been through quite a few instruments though! :p

Alafia Onile !! Congrats on the sudden gig! Hey ... I might be interested in some of that "real estate"
your looking to unload. I like the bigger drums, too (even though the forum name is captainquinto)
But hey -I'm not a captain either! I hope the forum members aren't too disillusioned now! :O

[onile]

Alafia Abure Cap'n Q!
I hope that you are well my brother!

I just PM'd you, actually I seem to be having some difficulty with my computer here at work, Ooooops! am I outed, I should be working shouldn't I? Naughty me!

Actually, I think I wound up sending you a message twice, slightly altered the second time though, without meaning to. I just thought that the first one didn't go through! Oh Well!

I'm looking at unloading the Palladiums, but you can come down and take a "gander" at 'em, check your PM!

Many blessings my brother!
Onile!



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[baffleson]

Greetings again everyone. I have another question. Im probably going to buy a couple of lp classics brand new, I found a tumba for 350. Anyway, Im wondering about the difference between the gold and chrome hardware. Im suspecting that its just chrome painted gold right?

baff

[rumbaman]

Hey how you guys doin'. I had a pair of galaxy bongos with the gold trim and it faded quickly ,you decide .

rumbaman

[onile]

Alafia Abures!
I hope that you are well and in warm spirits!

Abure Baffleson: as for the "gold" hardware, I'm afraid you would be dissappointed with it in time. You see, we each have a pH balance which actually is the body's acidic result of acid forming foods. The acids are secreted in our sweat, and through our hands. When you handle a trumpet for instance, you'll see that some players trumpets are tarnished where the hand is placed. The same applies to the "gold" finish on the conga drums, you will see them tarnish before too long based on your handling and care of the drums.

I would much rather have chrome hardware, much easier to keep and polish!

FYI

pH Balance Information
When the body is too acidic as a result of acid forming foods, high fat, mucus forming foods, and toxic food residues, disease and infections proliferate. This is especially true in cases of arthritis and rheumatic situations.

The human body should be slightly alkaline in order to build an alkaline reserve for acid-forming conditions such as stress, lack of exercise, or poor dietary habits.

Suave!

Onile!