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Posted: **Mon May 15, 2006 12:02 am**

Hola Congaforum,

Percussionist Jaisen Torres out of New York City is selling a very nice set of tumbadoras. Check out attached pic. For more information about this drums feel free to contact him directly at:
(212) 706-0946 or at info@ibukolechekeres.com

Saludos,

Jorge Ginorio

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Posted: **Mon May 15, 2006 1:33 am**

Holy Smokes, those babies are beautiful. What kind are they?

Posted: **Mon May 15, 2006 1:45 pm**

mangorockfish wrote:Holy Smokes, those babies are beautiful. What kind are they?

Mangorockfish,

I think those are Timba Percussion drums. Feel free to contact Jaisen Torres directly for all inquiries about this drums.

Saludos,

Jorge Ginorio

Posted: **Fri May 19, 2006 12:49 am**

i heard about how timba percussion out of california is having trouble with there wood, & skins, there drums have been cracking & wood shifting on them, plus they have a reputation for doing bad buisness , people be carefull.....

Posted: **Fri May 19, 2006 2:37 am**

Alafia Abure Yeye Oba-Morro!
I hope that you are well and in an abundance of blessings!

I have heard the same thing, a conguero out here had a set of two and one of them cracked. Needless to say, he was pretty bummed out. I must admit, they do look incredibly beautiful, and I've been tempted to get a set. I think not at this point, as for the 'bad business', I haven't heard that, but I have a good friend who owns a music store out here and she hasn't had many good things to say about the folks at (correction) Timba!

Adupue Abure mi!

BTW! Welcome to the forum, how about sharing a bit about yourself with us? How long have you been playing? What do you play? and anything else you care to share!

Suave!
Onile!

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Posted: **Fri May 19, 2006 2:26 pm**

Onile take a look... I don't know if you meant to say Timba instead of Gon bops.

Amor. Paz y Rumba

OLsongo

Posted: **Sat May 20, 2006 2:27 am**

my freind jose has 3 of these timba drums & all of them have opened up over the past 2 years, its realy a shame, cause he spent alot of money on them, but i guess everything that shines aint what it looks like, for real, its realy foul, how this company has neglected certain customers....

Posted: **Sat May 20, 2006 5:57 am**

Please let's try not to start spreading rumors about instruments we ourselves havn't tried. Wood
is organic not like fiberglass and there's a small
percentage of shifting & shrinkage that occurs naturally. Of course those issues should be addressed by the makers.. Making handmade congas is a unique craft. Those that do it could have easily spent their time in much more profitable ventures.
Let's not attack those who still have
a passion to continue this craft, whoever they
may be. I'm sure they'd like our constructive feedback.

Isaac Gutwilik
Sales, JCR Percussion Co.

Posted: **Sat May 20, 2006 10:46 am**

Isaac,

Spoken like the true mensch you are. Hear, hear!

Posted: **Sat May 20, 2006 10:48 pm**

To all my bros, I personally have some LP classcis, the white ones with the black grain showing, made of oak. The tumba which I don't tune that high, developed some slat separating at the bottom,but the quinto which I tune way high is perfect; so I don't know its strange. What I recommend to all of this companies is a thicker finish.

Posted: **Sat May 20, 2006 10:57 pm**

Isaac wrote:Please let's try not to start spreading rumors about instruments we ourselves havn't tried. Wood
is organic not like fiberglass and there's a small
percentage of shifting & shrinkage that occurs naturally. Of course those issues should be addressed by the makers.. Making handmade congas is a unique craft. Those that do it could have easily spent their time in much more profitable ventures.
Let's not attack those who still have
a passion to continue this craft, whoever they
may be. I'm sure they'd like our constructive feedback.

Isaac Gutwilik
Sales, JCR Percussion Co.

On the same note, if there is a problem with the drums it is good that people bring that to our attention. Before you sepnd 1800 on a set of three drums, you want to hear from others about what their experience has been with those instruments. Good and bad. Before I bought my skin on skin drums I talked to a lot of people who had them. Many of them reccomended that I buy the cherry wood as it had less of a propensity to go out of round. Others who had oak drums made the statement that they sounded great, but that they had gone a tad bit out of round, even with the alma. I bought the cherries and I love them. Had I spent a lot of money on the oaks, and they had gone out of round i would have been upset. If I had spent a lot of money on Timba drums and they started falling apart I would expect the company to take care of it. If they're not taking care of it I think it's responsible to take note of that in this forum, after all it's part of what it's here for.
PC

Posted: **Sat May 20, 2006 11:20 pm**

Alafia Abures!
I hope that you are all well and in an abundance of blessings!

I think that we agree with what Abure Pcastag has just stated. If we try and censor or stiffle input from members who have had bad experiences with equipment from manufacturers who's intention is to put out a good product (we hope), then we've done ourselves a disservice. I understand your point Abure Isaac, and in all honesty, we should give the company in question, whether LP, Timba, Pearl, or whomever, the opportunity to correct the problem with whatever repairs or replacements deemed necessary. The problem however is when some of these company representatives lose focus of the customer, and make it quite difficult to come to an amicable solution. I personally had to send back one of my LP Palladiums, there was a separation in the staves starting to run the length of the drum. I wound up sending it back and getting a replacement. Great customer service!

We need to keep posting concerns such as this, to help others when faced with similar predicaments with equipment.

My apologies for the mis-type in my previous post, Adupue Abure Olsongo!

Many blessings Abures!

Onile!

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Posted: **Sun May 21, 2006 12:38 am**

thats exactly what im talking about, as a matter of fact , jaisen torres is a good freind of mine & i know he told me issac knows him & im sure isacc must know about jays problem with timba percussion, in fact he spent a whole lot of money, & it aint fair that timba just turned there back on him, so this is just to let people know to be awre of timbas fake garbage drums, & thats that- what...

Posted: **Sun May 21, 2006 2:20 am**

pcastag, mi pana onile,yeye and friend isaac, like always, mucho blessing!!! i agree with you onile, yeye and pcastag 100%. well said. companies should have impetu in their concern when inspecting their product before puting in for sale. i also agree with , isaac for his contructive feedback. it is not that easy to build, construct or put together a hand made instrument. ache to all!!! franc

Posted: **Sun May 21, 2006 6:24 pm**

I own Skin on Skin,two Oak (conga,tumba) and one birch conga.The only one Jay ever made from birch.I haven't had any problems,probably because I live in Miami and the temperatue is warm.I have friends in NYC that claim that their Skin on Skin have shrunk on them and that Jay had to adjust the outter bands.This is probably because of the cold.I also have three Junior Tirados made from Cahoba (mahogany) they are about 35 yrs. old and have never spilt or separated.Junior drums are not steam bent and if properly maintained, they'll never split.Jay steam bends and sometimes the wood itself wants to straighten out,that's why it shrinks.
I owned many different Gon Bops sets and with time they all splitted on me.I had a lesser problem with Valje.Cuban Sonocs sound great but they split with time,it has to do with the low quality of the glue used in Cuba.I had a set of Timbas,super tumba and conga and they never split on me I ended up selling them.
The main thing is for makers to stand behind their products.I know Cali (JCR) does,so did Junior and also Jay.Is a pisser to spend "mucho billete" and then for makers to turn their backs. Saludos, Dario

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