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Posted:
Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:28 pm
by el_frenko
I've got a set of remo crown fiberglass congas, 10" and 11" with fiberskin heads. i want to get a third conga, but there aren't any different sizes in the remo crown range. do you reckon it would be ok for me to just use and extra 11" (instead of a tumba) or would it be better if i got a different fiberglass conga from a different range but also with fiberskin head?
thanks alot,
steve

Posted:
Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:39 am
by Sakuntu
You could use another 11" if you wanted to. If you wanna stick with remo, what about a poncho sanchez model? or you could get either a LP conga or tumba and just put a nuskyn on it if you like that sound. Theres no right or wrong answer here. I do have to say that theres nothing like playing a big fat tumba though. something about that feel and sound!

Posted:
Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:03 pm
by ozrivera
el
my personal opinion with the set up that you have, is to get a tumba or an 113/4" conga. the conga can be used as a tumba or conga and it will dynamics to your sound.
good luck on your selection
oz

Posted:
Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:52 pm
by el_frenko
thanks for the advice. something like a 11 3/4" sounds good, but i dont want to end up getting something that sounds out of place with my current set-up. the remo crown congas are red finish, 28" high, come with fiberskin heads and are made out of aged siam oak wood (not fiberglass as i previously thought... :p ). looks wise, i don't mind if the extra drum stands out, but i would like something that "fits in" soundwise. any suggestions?

Posted:
Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:46 pm
by verticalgil
the size of the instrument is what makes the different sound ,obviously, if i were you i would go with a 11 3/4 as well. :ghostface:

Posted:
Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:12 am
by bongoron
I would get a 121/2 inch tumba...easier to tune it higher than to tune a conga down and maintain good tone. I have a 12 inch schalloch I use either way...right now it's the conga in a three drum set here at home. Usually it's my tumba in a practice studio with 10 and 11 inch quinto and conga.
God bless!
-Ron

Posted:
Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:10 pm
by verticalgil
bongoron
a 10" intrument (9 3/4) is a requinto not a quinto, quintos are 11" and congas 11 3/4 . :ghostface:
god bless u 2...

Posted:
Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:16 pm
by bongoron
Thanks...I thought they were relative to one another, based on the tuning and what is in the set...and they were also advertized that way when I got the set (when I knew literally nothing about it). In fact, without even going to the remo website, I would be willing to bet they advertize the set mentioned in the same way.
The information I stated above came from here (congaplace) in other threads, I'm sure. I don't have any other reference materials, but I'll stand corrected if some other folks want to chime in and verify the error, as I don't think I made it up...when I play four, I tune the 10 much higher (requinto) than when I play with the set of 10 (quinto), 11 (conga), and 12 (tumba).
In that case I use the 10 as requinto (although my playing style may very well negate that term altogether) 11 as quinto, 11 3/4 as conga, and a 12.5 as tumba. I have bongas, darbukas, and six congas...10" two 11" 11 3/4 12, and 12 1/2 inch. I tune them many different ways, including tuning the 12.5 up higher than the 11 3/4 and using the 12 inch as tumba for a tonal variations sometimes. I will tune for the notes I want anyway, based on the key of our music...that's why I use so many drums in a gig. I'ts not to play tham all at once, but for variation to keep it fresh. I also put them in different positions for variations on the same patterns. We play no latin music...only modern Christian rock...so I realize I'm quite limited in my experience, but I'm working on that daily now.
As I grow in experience, many things may or may not change...I'm open to experienting with all of that.
God bless!
-Ron
Edited By bongoron on 1161878100

Posted:
Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:09 am
by Quinto Governor II
Requinto, Anyone care to give some history on this drum. What is its origin? Was it created by the manufacturers for marketing purposes? Or does it have a place in a traditional or folk ensemble? If the latter I have never heard of it. I know the role of the quinto in Rumba, but the requinto I don't know. I would never think of the necessity of a drum higher than a quinto, which obviously can be tuned to higher degrees of the pitch- to the point of choking of course. Now on the other end we have the super- tumba, which one could make the same argument about. Personally I could find more of a justification for a super-tumba than for a requinto. I think the quinto has a higher range on the high end as opposed to the range of a tumba on the low end. as you tune a tumba down you may get a lower tone but little resonance.

Posted:
Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:35 pm
by bongoron
That is why I would prefer a tumba tuned into the conga range vs a conga tuned down into the tumba range if I had to choose two drums...and this is what I do for small acoustic ensembles in smaller rooms...You get some of the tumba "roar" with some of the conga pitch....as needed.
God bless!
-Ron