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Postby arpa » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:55 pm

Hi, good to be here with you.

When looking for ways to improve rolls I found out that some patterns take years of practice - that's kind of cool! I got interested in and found out that hand percussions around the world have some very difficult (and somewhat similar) patterns.

I started to ponder that how general hand drumming techniques really are between different drums? For example, if you know Bongo, can you use the Bongo technique to play Conga or Djembe, or even non-afro percussions like Iranian Tombak or Indian Tabla; or vice versa to play Tabla roll on Bongo.

I am curious about this, because I am a kind of curious person. And, I think I could locate good hand-percussion-without-bongo-backround teacher better.
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Postby zaragemca » Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:32 pm

Greeting,the whole situation is that many of these percussion instruments have specific characteristics,so not everything is transferable,what could be transferable is the coordination,syncronization,concept of timing,flexibility,and the hand/fingers callous :D ,which you could develop with exercise. Dr. Zaragemca
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Postby arpa » Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:45 pm

Hi, this is a page you must see: http://www.petelockett.com. There is a variety of percussions and rhytms all around the world.

Bongo lessons can be found from the first page by navigating to dowload free lessons (that sounds good, doesn't it?) and then selecting Bongo page.

See Bongo solo on page:
http://www.petelockett.com/pete%20new%20mp3/bongo%20solo%202004.mp3

I did not know that martillo is accented on weak hand also... so I think I must now tune my Bongo and get back to basics...

One more comment... Pete expresses the best finger technique I have seen, but slaps are somewhat... shallow... and well, I am shy to continue... did I understood Dr. Zaragemca correctly that nuances make different instruments different.




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Postby bongomikee » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:36 pm

Hi all,

New here....Mikee from London UK. Just chipping in on the subject.....

Hope your all cool!

Pete is an amazing multipercussionist and is very generous with his knowledge. Saw him perform a 1 hour solo at the drummerlive exhibition last wkend and he was awesome with special guest Liz Walters (Japenese Taiko drummer).

With regards to technique etc, IMHO its finding and developing how you can achieve the right sound which fits the way u play the best.

After all everyone learns from the basic techniques but we all develop our own technique eventually. For example I see various different pro's play slaps on congas & bongos differently. Pete Lockett plays his slaps on bongos with slightly cupped hands & David Romero plays his slaps flat handed. Just an example I'm using.....all depends of the individual I feel. I personally do both and practise both methods and experiment with others too.

Happy playing!

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Postby arpa » Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:53 pm

Mikee, thanks for not getting me wrong...

It's good to hear that you don't see an orthodox view of (slap) technique... and I like to hear that all is good as far as you practice and give what you were given.

With all my respect.
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Postby arpa » Fri May 26, 2006 6:07 pm

Cheers!

I really have been thinking about this topic a lot...

There is something that goes very deep. Not only because the
original question was answered by very capable percussionists, but also because I seem to appreciate other percussions more when I practice one.

I mean... after I started to practice one percussion, I also appreciate (and maybe understood) other percussions a bit more too.

I did not make any questions now, but I hope to get answers. I am sure that you can tell what are my questions :)

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Postby el_frenko » Sat May 27, 2006 7:48 pm

check out Marco Haber, he has a really wierd style of playing djembe whereby he uses all the techniques he's learned over the years from loadsa instruments like doumbek and congas. he plays with Sean Rowe in a two-piece called "Mudfunk".

http://video.google.com/videopl....mudfunk

(or search "mudfunk" on google video)
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Postby Charangaman » Tue May 30, 2006 1:21 pm

Definatley if you play more than one instrument - they all teach you something about eachother.. e.g you could be playing congas and realize something about bongo which you didn't know before.. Plus you realize how these things fit together..
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Postby mcraghead » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:10 am

arpa wrote:Hi, this is a page you must see: http://www.petelockett.com. There is a variety of percussions and rhytms all around the world.

Bongo lessons can be found from the first page by navigating to dowload free lessons (that sounds good, doesn't it?) and then selecting Bongo page.

See Bongo solo on page:
http://www.petelockett.com/pete%20new%20mp3/bongo%20solo%202004.mp3

I did not know that martillo is accented on weak hand also... so I think I must now tune my Bongo and get back to basics...

One more comment... Pete expresses the best finger technique I have seen, but slaps are somewhat... shallow... and well, I am shy to continue... did I understood Dr. Zaragemca correctly that nuances make different instruments different.

That was an awesome solo. I lets me know how much more I need to practice, not that I plan on ever being able to call myself a musician, but I would like to be able to do the basics and be able to keep time. In fact I've been on the forums quite a bit today and they all remind me how much I need to practice. I know it takes years to become good but I won't ever get there at the rate I'm going. I don't practice nearly enough.
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