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[twinsbongo]

i will be posting pictures of the pan con queso bongo. it will be for sale if the price is right. lloking to get about 375.00 fot it
julito
ft worth tx

[bongosnotbombs]

Of all the mass produce models once I was considering buying the Woodcraft from Meiln although is made inThailand,it is made under German supervision and quality standards, the only thing that stoped me was the center piece assembly. Once in a store there was an older model Meiln 7.25" & 9" with the traditional center wood block I was willing to buy or trade but the owner said NO way José.

I like hte Meinl a lot, the macho is one of the best I have heard, the 9" hembra takes some work though..

I actually like the Meinl center piece a lot, it is very strong and I think puts less stress on the shells because it attaches to the bottom rings..

The drawback is it makes the bonogs wide, almost too wide with the 9" hembra.

The Meinl floating center piece is a good design, however I can totally understand why a lot of people would'nt like it. It's a matter of choice.

Looking forward to getting my Resolution bongos, about 3 more months.

[caballoballo]

BnB, I wish I could have convince the owner of the Old Meiln, was so old that the chrome was starting to peel off but luck was not on my side.

How long has Meiln has been in the market ? Because I remember back in the 70s that the same logo was painted on some Bongos. How long are them ? The ones made by El Piernas are big & heavy.

[Mike]

have realize that most of us in the Bongó side of the house Forum either have or are in the process of acquiring a top of the line handmade Bongó from a respectful manufacturer or have selected a vintage edition like the ones made during the 70s or early 80s in the USA or elsewhere. We are in the evolution process of getting away from the mass produce Thailand stuff.

Coming back to your initial statement, Caballoballo:
Yes, vintage drums really often have the sound you have been after for a long time.

And hey, I wonder about these beauties:
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and

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and finally

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The latter ones, the Valje walnut bongos, have some strange connections tubes instead of a block, don´t they?

Well, I wonder who is going to to call one of those his (or her?!) own anyway?
The prices are high, but I believe so is the quality of these instruments...

Just check out your purses, brethren
Mine is temporarily closed as I´m waiting for Isaac mule skin to mount on my restored Supercussions bongos :;):

Mike



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[bongosnotbombs]

Those Valje are the Jack Constanza model I beleive. Rob Felcher has tried to sell thise before, to me his prices are a little high..

also I am pretty sure those JCR's belong top a friend of mine in Berkely.

Personally for me, I don't like to pay a top dollar price for vintage, if it comes close I think new from a top maker is better, often vintage comes with issues....if vintage is at the right price I think it's good..

that $750 for the Valje??? Only a serious collector would consider, I could get 2 Mopercs for the same price or a Moperc and a Mathew Smith.

I would consider that drum for $300.

...but some people really like vintage, and for them it's worth it and I'm glad there's people like that to keep these little pieces of drum history around.

[Mike]

.but some people really like vintage, and for them it's worth it and I'm glad there's people like that to keep these little pieces of drum history around.

Exactly, as long as they PLAY them!
I definitely DO love to play my LP Generation I vintage bongo.

I agree again, the vintage market has absurd prices at times, but hey, think of stamps like blue mauritius or the first Ford model T (is it still around?) - some collectors would be ready to pay any price. Those guys probably don´t work work as hard or as honest as we all do :;):

[caballoballo]

BNB & Mike, yes, $750 is too much. To me the instruments I Have are to play not to show. No sense on having a $750 Bongó on a shelf just to brag about. I may use The Moperc & the Colombian Percussion in places like Hotels,weddings or any other place where a Tuxedo is require,the El piernas are to play in pubs where a heavy sound is needed, not saying in any way that the Moperc & the CP don't have that sound it is just the choice I have for them . I just bought the Colombian Percussion that Omelemko was selling,hopefully would be in the mail Monday.

I traded the old Lp Valje which I was not using for a paint job to be done on the 2007 El Piernas,I did not like that paint color on that Bongó.



Edited By caballoballo on 1195307311

[Mike]

The ebay bongos went for high prices: Wow, the JCR vintage bongos for 434$ !!!
Well, the LP Generation I bongos did not sell...
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But I have questions on them:
I wonder about the "neoprene" protection the seller attached to the block in order to protect the shells. (Hey, surfers, this guy cut holes in your suits )
To be serious: Does this make sense with old shells? Does the bongó not get wobbly? Or, if you crank the bolts (too) tight, do you not have the same negative effect?

Cheers,
Mike



Edited By Mike on 1195583237

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[blango]

Ive used similar methods to prevent cracking old shells and it works great. You can tighten them down to they are solid, but there is no wood to wood contact. This prevents cracking at the point where the bolts enter. It distributes the load more evenly over the shell. Its the specific point of pressure that causes the split, ie the point where the bolt, or washer, touches the wood.

If you tighten it down, you can barely see the foam. Perhaps he used thicker foam than I. I used weather stripping foam as I believe surfers are people too...

I also put plates and foam on the inside of my bongo, thus protecting the inside as well.

[Mike]

Tony, thanks a lot for your info. So it makes perfect sense to equip bongos in that way. Well, I thought of sacrificing an old mouse pad...
It´s about time for web surfers to contribute something to old bongos
The mousepad´s also kind of foamy and can be condensed like neopren.

I also put plates and foam on the inside of my bongo, thus protecting the inside as well.

Again, good point! I have made my own large and solid plates to avoid the small ´n´cheap washers the bongos often come with (3x6cm) and I´ll use foam to protect the inner side as well.

OK, enough thread-jacking now, sorry, Caballoballo.
Mike



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