mrhands wrote:Respect Johnny Conga, Respect!
I have a question... I saw an interview with Luis Conte on youtube and he talks about avoiding any traditional afro-cuban, cuban rhythm's when he's not playing those styles...What's your take on this? I noticed that you actually do play some traditional rhythms in the disco rnb stuff. I'm asking because I play ina funk/rnb band and a tumbao is always a safe bet. Most of the rhythms I play for the band are based off of it. However, I have been using your youtube vids to add variations.. Do you agree with Conte? I personally think that if it sounds good, I'll use whatever rhythm.
Maybe this belongs in another thread, I don't want to hijack JCs video thread, but responding to this post, I think Luis Conte was talking about specific religious rhythms played to particular orichas, and Abakua rhythms that have particular meanings. I do agree with him on this. You rarely if ever hear religious drummers who are also top drummers in popular Cuban or Latin music play the real rhythms unmodified in popular songs or jazz. Rhythms from rumba, all the time, modifications of chachalokpafun, ñongo and other bata, guiro or bembe patterns, yes, little pieces of bonko parts yes, but not straight unmodified religious rhythms. I think this is done to show respect for the religions. Pedrito Martinez, Irakere, the late Pancho Quinto and others have used a lot of their deep knowledge of religious music in popular music, but it is always modified. JC, I don't think I am disagreeing with you, we hear pieces of Afrocuban parts in lots of salsa, R&B, jazz and other popular music, I am really talking about playing complete, authentic religious rhythms in popular songs. Right now I actually can't think of even one example of an unmodified religious rhythm in a popular song, can anyone think of one?
I agree with playing along with the bass part, although locking in with the kick and snare is important also, so as not to clash. This takes a drummer with some knowledge of AfroCuban rhythms to leave some space and not do fill ins at every opportunity.