Bombo Andina - Central/South American Percussion

[Ivan]

Hola Todos, Oja todon bien (Hope all is well)

Drum brothers, I am looking for some more guidance...

I am looking to find some variations to play with while playing bombo andino for the following rhythms: Zamba de Argentina, Joropo, Pasillo, Queca, Bambuco, Candombe, Malambo and there are so many more I can't think of right now...

Sheet music, cds, percussionists to look out for, etc... Anything would help.

Thanks.

[zaragemca]

Greeting Ivan what you are making reference is a group of difference folkloric pattern;the andino,comes form the Incas side,(Peru-Bolivia),Samba Argentine,is a varietion of the Samba-Brazilena,the Joropo is rooted in Venezuela, and the rest is more or less rooted in the Candombe,(Bantu),which by the way is more popular in Uruguay,(they have a festival there).There are differents Folkloric Groups which might have those patterns as Show-Band,for a regional presentation.(being able to play in differences South America Festivals.There are Andino's Groups performing all the time in Houston's International Festivals.Dr.Zaragemca



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[Ivan]

Dr Zaragmeca, thanks for your added input... But could you provide some names of groups I can listen for practicing purposes?

I am very familiar with the music and where it is from - I just need a little guidance in some variations I can try when playing these ryhthms... :;):

In Seattle there aren't many percussionist that specialize in these types of rhythms... A lot of the people that play these rhythms (here) are guitar players that just know the basics... Dr Z maybe you should consider moving up here so you, JC and myself can hang...

The groups I listen to currently in this genre are:

Correo Aereo (which I've played with)
Int-Illimani
Illapu
Marta Gomez
Some of Los Lobos
Peru Negro
Susana Baca
Eva Allyon
and so on...

If you or anyone here can provide me with some variations of these folkloric types of rhythms that I can work on that would be greatly appreciated! Of the musicians I listed above, I find that Marta Gomez's CD is easiest to listen to in terms of hearing variations on Bombo, etc... It's not so busy in the percussion section...

Thanks again for your added input Dr. Z, but if you could help me in the area of variations that would be great!

[zaragemca]

Telling the true since the recording which I did in the early 80's with an Andino group,I have not been following that music,,( to which I was exposed when I was in Cuba through a radio-program),( but in the Houston's festivals there is always Andino's Band playing).The Joropo, could be obtain through Venezuela websides.Condombe and related folkloric are very popular in Uruguay,so search for CD's in that category.



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[ABAKUA]

I took some lessons a few years ago with Cuban percusionist 'Efrain' from Intillimani, during a tour of Australia.

Amongst what rythems has already been mentioned there is also Saya, Waylas and many more.

The groups you mentioned have produced many many recordings.

For the whole 'Andean feel' continue searching for more IntIllamani, Illapu, Savia Andina, and so forth.
If you like I will send you a 2 part CD recorded live at a recent concert I performed at where it is a fusion with over 20 musicians of Andean with Latin Jazz, Cuban Timba, reggae and Sth American Folklore. I play congas, bombo, chekere, sound effects and cajon peruano y cajon cubano in the recording.

For Malambo, Samba and Argentine folklore there is Los Chalchaleros amongst many others, use Kazaa for free download of many examples of this and other artists/rhythms.

Bombo le guero (Andean Bombo) is not an instrument of Candombe from Uruguay though as the self proclaimed Dr mentions. Uruguay also uses the bombo in some of their folkloric music, but not for Candombe.

I have studied Candombe with some of the best tamboreros from Uruguay and have had the honour of playing in large Candombe Llamadas also.
I normally would play either 'Chico' or 'Piano' in Candombe.
Chico plays the time keeper in Candombe, Piano is the base drum (like a big tumba) and then there is the repique which is like the quinto.

If you would like me to burn you a copy of the recording I previously mentioned and send it to you pls PM me your details and I will get it out to you asap.



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[ABAKUA]

If you do not have tumbadoras or actual candombe drums to use in the Candombe tune or section of a tune, you can substitute the Piano rythem on to a bombo, however it is not the same effect.
Best to leave it to the congas and drumkit to fill it. You could always accent the main open beat of the Piano though on bombo if you have nothing else to play.








Above: From left to right the drums are repique, chico and piano.

[windhorse]

Nice pics Abakua!!!

Thanks!

[zaragemca]

To Abakua,welcome for the pictures,and your comments,but which the exception of what you said that I said in relation to the Andine Bombo,..I never said such thing in my post,..All I said was that 'Candombe was popular In Uruguay'.There is not mentioning of Bombo in my post. Dr.Zaragemca



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[Ivan]

Thanks Abakua... Great Pictures, too!

I would love to get a copy of the music you were referring to... I have also noted down Los Chalchaleros for listening... In most of the andean groups I play with around here - you could literally count on your fingers how many there are... They play one song that uses a similar to Candombe pattern... Usually it is just me on percussion so i use the bombo for all parts. The song we play is Negro Jose, the original (not the cheesy cumbia version most people play these days) from Illapu. I have the original recording from the mid-to late 60's... In exchange, I could send you a copy of this album...

I became hip to a lot of these groups because my father as a young buck was very involved in the political movement in Chile during the coup in the 70's. He was friends and performed with a lot of the great musicians out of Chile; Jorge one of only original band members left of Inti-Illimani and members of Illapu and so on... He performed mostly for "movement" purposes...

I have to look in to this Kazaa thing you keep talking about.

I'll send you a message thru this site with my address info... Please respond with yours as well so I can send you a couple of recordings I have as well.

Ivan

[ABAKUA]

Thanks Abakua... Great Pictures, too!

I would love to get a copy of the music you were referring to...

Hey Ivan,

Im assuming you havent received the copy I sent many weeks ago...
Since then we have held another concert with that particular group I was telling you about, and if you like I will send you out this more recent one.
We will soon be given a DVD copy of the night also.
Let me know.

Marcelo



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