What to play with Jazz standards?

[JohnnyConga]

Offended at what?....."JC" Johnny Conga...

[pcastag]

That was supposed to be a sarcastic statement. Maybe I should have used an emoticon But really, I'm not making up any musical history ???
PC

[congamyk]

once again Brasilians "know of" bossa nova but it was "more famous" here in the states than Brasil...is what i meant to say....so I correct myself...cause I can...

You're correcting yourself because what you said was wrong.

And now you make another ridiculous statement; that bossa nova is more popular here (in the USA) than in Brazil.
It's not more popular here. Bossa nova is a MAJOR genre in Brazil.

... So congamyk tell me more about the music scene in NYC being your from Kansas, mind you the scene Im talking about was before u picked up an instrument,

First, you have no idea "where" I'm from. And you obviously have no clue about the NYC jazz scene. Which jazz band did you play with? According to your resume that you post constantly you played with pop and Latin bands so don't act like you're an authority about NY especially the jazz scene.

Now I live now in Kansas City Missouri. It's a city of 2 million people in the center of the country and has more musicians and history than Seattle will ever have. Maybe you should trade your congas away and learn grunge guitar. You might get some gigs and not be so bitter and jealous of congueros that made it big like Jerry Gonzales and Poncho Sanchez.

Jerry WAS NOT the First Modern Conguero, man where do u get this stuff??....

I charge for reading lessons. I never said he was the first "modern conguero." I said he was the first conguero to "lead" a band in the modern jazz era. His band crossed all jazz genres, not JUST latin. Fort Apache could swing with any other jazz band out there and that's why they were influencial. What part of that don't you understand or refute? None, because you can't.



Edited By congamyk on 1185171213

[congamyk]

your list looks fine, but those are all well known artists, you said you could list hundreds, which I would be interested in seeing. Fifth, I'm glad that you have been listening to jazz, for decades, but that hardly makes you an authority on the subject does it? Sixth, I never even mentioned you, you chose to pull out my post with some dates and start hacking on it. Whatever dude!
PC

Hey PC sorry if you feel I was hacking but I was only proving that bossa nova is a MAJOR genre in Brazil. I don't have to list the hundreds of bossa nova musicians from Brazil, we all know there ARE hundreds if not thousands of them. They don't all have to be world famous.



Edited By congamyk on 1185169329

[OLSONGO]

Hey dudessssss , what is the title of this post ?
It seems we got way out as to what it implies.

What to play with Jazz Standards?

[Diceman]

Right on Olosongo!!!

[JohnnyConga]

Ok Congamyk U da man!...you seem to even know everything about me too and my jazz life...I made it big long before you were born, my man...for me this subject with you is over....have a nice day!....peace..."JC" Johnny Conga...

[JohnnyConga]

Congamyk I also give reading lessons here is a list of JAZZ Artists I have worked with

Paquito D'Riviera
Arturo Sandoval
Doug Beavers
Mel Dancy
John Klemmer
Phil Diaz
Maryel Epps
Maynard Ferguson
Melton Mustafa
Pat Patrick
Nestor Torres
Tom Toyama
Llewellen Matthews
and others..................."JC" Johnny Conga...

[congamyk]

^ JC you should update your resume again to reflect all those musicians. Those are some heavy hitters.

Did you get a grunge guitar yet? I'll wait for the photos



Edited By congamyk on 1185215834

[congamyk]

I apologize to Spiritdrum for getting off topic.
I'm a jazz musician first and foremost and I tend to rant on the jazz-themed threads.

I'm going to go check out the new jazz thread yambu just started.... see you all there!



Edited By congamyk on 1185215988

[OLSONGO]

To get away from subject again.
MYck, as far as what Santana is doing now, doesnt take away from what he has done in the past. All I know is that I have a CD called Caravanserai with personel, like Armando Peraza, Mingo Lewis, Tom Coster, Lenny White, all jazzers, this album has elements that you can hear in later material by Miles and Weather Report A video called San Salvador was played for sometime on New Age Visions a jazz show on VHI. What the men is doing now is helping others survive be it pop, another word for music that gains a mass public acceptance. There have been jazz songs that have made it in the pop charts. anyways what is all that Smooth Jazz being played now, nothing but rehatched pop tunes. And the volume in Santanas percussion ? maybe in some of the recordings, but in his concerts there is no holding back. I see Raul and Perazzo going at it.
Santana was influential, even thought there already was plenty of material with Latin tinges in it and better, but he was getting the air play , he also led me to appreciate other musicians yet to be heard in the American market with better chops, but as we know much of it is marketing, in order so that it doens't go over a lot of peoples heads.

[zaragenca]

Well the latin/Jazz fire was started in the 1940’s both in Cuba and the U.S….In Cuba Chano Pozo was jamming jazz in the Habana/Hilton Orquestra as ‘guess’, in 1941,also there were some jazz jamming in the Orquestra of Romeu when he was playing at Tropicana in the 1940’s and the congero was Rolando Alfonso,(of the Alfonso dynasty)..In the 1950’s there were a lot of ‘Descargas’ jazz/jamming in Cuba with both Bebo Valdez Group and Frank Emilio Group,..Agustin ‘Manana’ Gutierrez and Tata/Guines were the percussionists,also at some point Candido Camero… Since early 70’s’ the Cuban Jazz Quintet, was around the world’s,(except the U.S.A.),getting known for playing Latin/Jazz and Afro/Jazz….Irakere was the expolsive culmination of the Afrocuban generation in 1973…..In the U.S.A…the movement was started by Mario Bauza,(with Machito Band), and Alberto Socarras Band in the early 1940’s both of these monster directors brought main jazz players into their bands to play with percussionists..Then in the U.S.A. since 1946,it have been really and explosion of cuban percussionists and later others with started joining jazz bands in the U.S.A….Dr. Zaragemca