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[Diceman]

JC, 'creating new rules' sounds better, granted.

I learned the 3/2 rumba clave

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Against my better nature but worked for me.

While we are talking about claves, how about the differences (or otherwise) between rumba and 6/8 clave. and how you clap the 6/8 clave while walking 4/4 and vice versa?

Driving me craaaaaaaaaaaaaazy.

Diceman

[Diceman]

Oops I meant son not rumba!

[Jimmy]

If a composition begins in 2/3 and the rhythm is rumba, then its a 2/3 rumba. Its the same with a 6/8 rhythm, It can Start in 3/2 or 2/3. It all depends on how the arrangement is written.

JD

[JohnR]

Question for JC:

You are giving me my first exposure to the concept of "tension and release".

When you say the first bar is the tension, does that depend on whether it is 2/3 or 3/2? In other words, would the tension be on the 2 side if 2/3 and on the 3 side if 3/2?

Regarding the clave accent, Windhorse answered that no clave accent is required since the clave is playing with the congas anyway. My question on that was if it would still apply if there is no clave player.

Still learning.



Edited By JohnR on 1129083535

[JohnnyConga]

Ok here it is ...
Clave is a pattern consisting of two rhythmic figures in a relationship of "tension-relaxation". It is structured in a two measure phrase,which is "held together" by a half-note pulse on beats 1 and 3. It is the "pulse" which maintains the stability of the rhythm. therefore,one must begin by understanding the relationship between the clave and the pulse....Reference ...Rebeca Mauleon....."JC" Johnny Conga...

[JohnnyConga]

Once familiar with the clave one will be able to "feel" it in the music. This accenting thing u guys are talking about, Clave is always there whether someone is playing it or not, you should be thinking IN CLAVE, when playing along with Latin music..."JC" Johnny Conga...

[windhorse]

exactly :;):