Tapado (again)

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Postby burke » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:07 pm

"Tapado strokes"
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'...slaps or higher pitched muted tones ... in general not as accented as a slap would be".

I asked this before and got a somewhat helpful reply from Pavloconga.

I looked on youtube and elsewhere but never found a demo.

With all the video help thats coming out recently would anyone be willing to visually demonstrate "Tapado" vs. regular closed slap.

There is nobody in my neck of the woods who can do so and I'd be very, very grateful.

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Postby JohnnyConga » Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:06 pm

Check out the "Ray Quesada" videos on youtube.com.he shows the different "tapaos"/slaps. . .Johnny Conga
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Postby burke » Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:44 pm

Thanks JC - did you by chance mean Rudy Quesada?

I checked out his site and yes he does demo open, closed (muted and un-muted) but in all 99 videos at his page I couldn't find the elusive tapado.

Is it just another word for a mute/muff?




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Postby JohnnyConga » Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:04 am

Sorry I meant Rudy. . . Burke there are "open', "closed/muted' and a "patato/bata" slap done by the left hand fingers at the top of the head center. . . .what are you confused about? the terminology or the how its done?. . . Johnny Conga. . . :D
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Postby burke » Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:44 pm

Maybe both - I don't know.

This 'tapado' seems to be another flavour of slap (or maybe it isn't and its just another word for slap).

An instruction book I have talks about the slaps used in a Guaguancó as "Tapado strokes"
Quote:
'...slaps or higher pitched muted tones ... in general not as accented as a slap would be".

Pavloconga’s reply to an earlier post seemed to support this idea that tapado is not a regular slap:
Quote:
“The slaps on guaguanco don't need to be overly emphasized. They are more like soft taps (like you say 'tapados') with the fingertips, though sometimes in parts of the rhythm they can be a little more emphasized than this.

I learned the correct technique on this when I was in Cuba studying under a teacher (Guillermo Lopez Clemente) from the Conjunto Folklorico”

If there is a technique that is "correct" and he learned it at the Conjunto Folklorico - I like to know what it looks like and if someone who knows and could demonstrate it is out there (like we've seen in the "Palm/tip" thread) I think I would be the only one who would be grateful.

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Postby burke » Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:01 pm

Been looking elsewhare for some insight and got this response which gets me closer:

"Hi Darrell, Tapado or in the street Tapao pronounced "top-owl" but without the "l" at the end of owl, I have always been told it means to mute the drum hit."

Then searching around this topic which got into conga notation (S vs s) talks about the idea of smaller slaps used in rumba:

http://www.congaplace.com/cgi-bin....2248;hl
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Postby burke » Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:23 pm

and I found this on another forum:

Re: Muffled tone


I think you're talking about the tapao. I usually pull back a bit,
and press slightly into the head. It should have almost the same
volume as the open tone. In bata tapao is actually used as part of
the rhythm, not just something to embellish it.
PC--- In latinperc@yahoogroups.com, "martingoodson"
<martingoodson@h...> wrote:
> just wanted some advice. I have pretty good technique with all of
my
> strokes but i feel the tone of my muffled strokes is not as good
as it
> could be. if i use too much fingertip it sounds a bit like a slap
> wheareas to much of the fleshy art of the finger and it's hard to
> distinguish from an open tone. I normally move my hand into the
centre
> of the drum slightly compared to an open when executing the muff. I
> keep the fingers relaxed. Any tips? I love the sound of a well
> executed muff... As an aside I'd also like to get a view of where
on
> the skin you play the heel-toe? I used to play more in the centre
but
> i've started to play more into the rim for the heel part...
>
> martin
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