vxla wrote:I'm not really getting his reply with the videos. Jorge please explain more as to what your point is.
jorge wrote:Abakua and JC, there is a difference between the clave pattern and the clave instrument..
jorge wrote:vxla wrote:I'm not really getting his reply with the videos. Jorge please explain more as to what your point is.
Vxla, study the videos carefully and listen to the relation between the low drum (playing the tumbador-like part), the middle drum (not the bonko) and the clave pattern played on the bell, and let us know what you think.
vxla wrote:... If you have a point, please make it in text, not just by posting videos. The videos were interesting, yes, but I still don't really see the direct relation to your point since you've given no context in which to frame them for your argument...
JohnnyConga wrote:...I said the Rumba Clave came from the port of Matanzas
...influenced by that Abakua 6/8 pattern
...it was developed in Matanzas before Havana, was which was still inline with 3/2 Son clave...
...If im wrong then show me...
..we cool?...hahaha
likes of Yoruba Andabo, Muñequitos de Matanzas, Los Papines, Rumberos De Cuba, Calderon family, all of which went into detail with me regarding origins of Rumba clave being from the Abakua, origins of which are in Havana first, then moving out to the other cities etc
Rumba Quinto wrote:It should be mentioned at the outset that the history of rumba is filled with so many unknowns, contradictions, conjectures and myths which have, over time been taken as fact, that any definitive history of the genre is probably impossible to reconstruct. Even elders who were present at historic junctures in rumba’s development will often disagree over the critical details of its history.
JohnnyConga wrote:Rumba Clave came out of Matanzas, not Havana
JohnnyConga wrote:The Clave comes out of/from the 'short' 6/8 bell part...translated into Clave in Matanzas....remember there were many African nations thrown together in Cuba...so it was this amalgamation that Rumba and Clave were created... they weren't playing Clave in Africa.
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