Fiberskyn for my conga

[gilbert]

hey
i want to put a fyberskin on my 11" quinto Meinl special edition artist series(Mongo Santamaria)

i'm already using the Remo Nuskyn m7-1106-n6

plz any advice ?

[ozrivera]

Gilbert:
there are numerous topics on synthetic conga heads that cover just about anything that there is to know. Try doing a search on the forum using keywords such as Remo, Evans, Fiberskyn or Nuskyn. you should find the inforamation youre looking for.

oz

[gilbert]

Gilbert:
there are numerous topics on synthetic conga heads that cover just about anything that there is to know. Try doing a search on the forum using keywords such as Remo, Evans, Fiberskyn or Nuskyn. you should find the inforamation youre looking for.

oz

man i've been here for more than 3 years
dont you think i'll do a search before posting ? :;):

anyway if you found any topic that can help me plz tell me
thanks

[ozrivera]

here's a couple of topics on fiberskyn, there are some others that may have some useful information on the bongo forum

http://www.congaplace.com/cgi-bin....berskyn

http://www.congaplace.com/cgi-bin....berskyn

oz

[gilbert]

any experts?

[caballoballo]

Gilbert, here is a table I got from Remo,it is for Pearl but should be the same.

Pearl Percussion Replacement Heads
REMO HEADS FOR Pearl Percussion
Drum Model # Description FiberSkyn 3 NuSkyn
CONGAS
PCW110DX Elite Wood 11" Quinto M4-1106-TC** M7-1106-N6**
PCW117DX Elite Wood 11.75" Conga M4-1175-TC** M7-1175-N6**
PCW125DX Elite Wood 12.5" Tumba M4-1250-TC** M7-1250-N6**
PCF110DX Elite Fiber 11" Quinto M4-1106-TC** M7-1106-N6**
PCF117DX Elite Fiber 11.75" Conga M4-1175-TC** M7-1175-N6**
PCF125DX Elite Fiber 12.5" Tumba M4-1250-TC** M7-1250-N6**
DJEMBES
PJW340 Elite 12.5" Wood Djembe NOT AVAILABLE NOT AVAILABLE
PJF320 Elite 12.5" Fiber Djembe NOT AVAILABLE NOT AVAILABLE
PJF350 Elite 14" Fiber Djembe NOT AVAILABLE M8-1400-N2 VINTAGE WRAP
BONGOS
PBW300DX Elite Wood Bongos M6-0715-F1/M6-0850-F5/ M6-0900-F5 M9-0715-N5 / M9-0850-N6 / M9-0900-N6 VINTAGE WRAP
PBF300DX Elite Fiber Bongos M6-0715-F1/M6-0850-F5/ M6-0900-F6 M9-0715-N5 / M9-0850-N6 / M9-0900-N6 VINTAGE WRAP
PRIMEROs
PWC201 10,11" Wood Conga set M4-S100-F5 / M4-S110-F5 M4-S100-N1 / M4-S110-N1
PFC201 10,11" Fiber Conga set M4-S100-F5 / M4-S110-F5 M4-S100-N1 / M4-S110-N1
PWB100 Wood Bongos M4-S715-F1 /M4-S850-F5 M9-0715-N5 / M9-S850-N6

Description of "FIT" is refers to counter hoop diameter size relation to drumhead diameter size
*A "tight" fit may exist between the outside dimension of the drumhead and the counterhoop because of a potentially undersized counter hoop.
** A "loose" fit may exist between the outside dimension of the drumhead and the counterhoop because of a potentially oversized counterhoop.

[gilbert]

caballoballo thanks

this chart helped me alot

[Raymond]

Gilbert,

Just info that summarizes everything....

Fyberskins - More overtones, more bassy tones. Volume tends to be higher on this

NuSkyns - Less overtones, sharper tones. (The same with Evans). Volume is less on this model.

Regarding synthetic heads...Fyberskins came first...then people checked Evans...some people got the NuSkyns but were dissapointed, like Evans, with the low volume /projection of sound and went back to Fyberskins....Fyberskins are winning right now in their use.

There are two Fyberskins in the market. One is the traditional with the "drumshell like" ring and a new model with a traditional ring type like natural heads. Remo claims is the same film although they have different color. (The original Fyberskin with the "drumshell like" is more brown and the traditional ring model is beige or lighter in color).

NuSkins are actually white in color.

Piece of advice...Not all synthetic heads fit perfectly in all brands although the brands or Remo might claim a head is the one that fits the conga or rim. So..don't be dissapointed if the head you buy does not fit perfect...

My two cents in the subject....

Saludos!

[gilbert]

Gilbert,

Just info that summarizes everything....

Fyberskins - More overtones, more bassy tones. Volume tends to be higher on this

NuSkyns - Less overtones, sharper tones. (The same with Evans). Volume is less on this model.

Regarding synthetic heads...Fyberskins came first...then people checked Evans...some people got the NuSkyns but were dissapointed, like Evans, with the low volume /projection of sound and went back to Fyberskins....Fyberskins are winning right now in their use.

There are two Fyberskins in the market. One is the traditional with the "drumshell like" ring and a new model with a traditional ring type like natural heads. Remo claims is the same film although they have different color. (The original Fyberskin with the "drumshell like" is more brown and the traditional ring model is beige or lighter in color).

NuSkins are actually white in color.

Piece of advice...Not all synthetic heads fit perfectly in all brands although the brands or Remo might claim a head is the one that fits the conga or rim. So..don't be dissapointed if the head you buy does not fit perfect...

My two cents in the subject....

Saludos!

thanks man

i'm already using Nuskyn and evans but the problem is that these plastic heads requires more power than the natural skin, you should do a bigger effort to produce the sound

thats why i wanna change my quinto's skin to fiberskyn hoping i can reduce the effort while playing

[yoni]

Hey Gilbert,

Long time no write. I hope all is well and cool by you.
An experience with Fiberskyn: I have one on my small bongo (the 'macho' bongo), had it there for years - it's very strong and still has sharp enough sound for me. But after a year or so, the outer layer of the fibersyin started to peel off, just from me playing it a lot. It's a papery layer that covers the stronger plastic layer underneath. This outer layer may be what gave it a more 'natural' sound; now it's like a Nuskyn, which seems to have only one plastic layer. So the fiberskyn may sound better than the nuskyn while that outer layer lasts, but if/when it eventually peels off, it seems to me the same as the nuskyn...

Just my experience with it.

All the best!

Yoni

[gilbert]

Hey Gilbert,

Long time no write. I hope all is well and cool by you.
An experience with Fiberskyn: I have one on my small bongo (the 'macho' bongo), had it there for years - it's very strong and still has sharp enough sound for me. But after a year or so, the outer layer of the fibersyin started to peel off, just from me playing it a lot. It's a papery layer that covers the stronger plastic layer underneath. This outer layer may be what gave it a more 'natural' sound; now it's like a Nuskyn, which seems to have only one plastic layer. So the fiberskyn may sound better than the nuskyn while that outer layer lasts, but if/when it eventually peels off, it seems to me the same as the nuskyn...

Just my experience with it.

All the best!

Yoni

hey yoni

good to hear from you!! i was out of lebanon working in the middle east just got back

thats a problem if the outer layer peels off because i'm gonna put it on my quinto so its gonna be used alottttt

but i hope it can give me something close to the real feel because i'm sick of plastic

[Raymond]

Don't be mistaken....using a head for a long time eventually will wear off. The same as with natural heads. So, Fyberskins or NuSkins are not exempt of this problem.

In regards to the "film" utlized, Remo claims Fyberskins and NuSkyns are different films, hence, different sounds.

Gilbert: The same claim you have about the Evans and NuSkins, it lacks volume, is the reason people are going to Fyberskins again after "leaving". Of course, none of this synthetic heads will suffice for the warmth and sound of a natural head.

Saludos!

[gilbert]

Don't be mistaken....using a head for a long time eventually will wear off. The same as with natural heads. So, Fyberskins or NuSkins are not exempt of this problem.

In regards to the "film" utlized, Remo claims Fyberskins and NuSkyns are different films, hence, different sounds.

Gilbert: The same claim you have about the Evans and NuSkins, it lacks volume, is the reason people are going to Fyberskins again after "leaving". Of course, none of this synthetic heads will suffice for the warmth and sound of a natural head.

Saludos!

yes Raymond you're right !! nothing is like the real skin

but where i live its impossible to get a good natural head and also we have a problem of humidity and weather changing so the tuning is always changing

thats why i'm going to synthetic!!