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Postby rumbero russo » Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:24 pm

Hello everybody!
My favorite rumba CDs, except famouse cuban collectives, is
Addie Bobe, "Central park rumba", Montvale Rumba. Can anybody
advice me any similar sounding records, from US. I even know the
names of rumberos a want to listen to, Pedro Martinez, Orlando Puntilla Rioz, Johny Rivera. I have only one track of Nueva Generacion from la calle54.with Patato, where to find more from this conjunto?
Thank you, wish all the best!
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Postby tamboricua » Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:32 pm

rumbero russo wrote:Hello everybody!
My favorite rumba CDs, except famouse cuban collectives, is
Addie Bobe, "Central park rumba", Montvale Rumba. Can anybody
advice me any similar sounding records, from US. I even know the
names of rumberos a want to listen to, Pedro Martinez, Orlando Puntilla Rioz, Johny Rivera. I have only one track of Nueva Generacion from la calle54.with Patato, where to find more from this conjunto?
Thank you, wish all the best!

Hola Rumbero Russo,

Check out "Raíces Habaneras" which also features Pedrito Martínez, Roman Díaz, and many others. I believe "Puntilla" has his owns albums available with Nueva Generación. John Santos and his Folklórico Quindembo has also some stuff available.

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Postby rumbero russo » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:10 pm

Thank you Tamboricua!
You have a nice site, I've just been there, and heard your bomba. Do you know some records of autentic puertorican music, bomba, plena. I have only Plena Libre and a lot of salsa and latin jazz from Puerto Rico.
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Postby tamboricua » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:48 pm

rumbero russo wrote:Thank you Tamboricua!
You have a nice site, I've just been there, and heard your bomba. Do you know some records of autentic puertorican music, bomba, plena. I have only Plena Libre and a lot of salsa and latin jazz from Puerto Rico.
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Rumbero Russo,

No problem bro, anytime! Thanks for checking out the site. For Bomba and Plena look out for recordings by:

Los Hermanos Ayala
Paracumbé
Los Pleneros de la 21
Viento de Agua
Angel Luis Torruellas
Manuel "Canario" Jiménez
Modesto Cepeda
Grupo Afroboricua
Plenéalo
Truco y Zaperoko
Pleneros del Quinto Olivo
Grupo Atabal

Hope this helps!

Saludos,

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Postby rumbero russo » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:35 pm

Thanks a lot!
Sure, all of them are great, as all puertorican music. I must learn more about it, and how to use puertorican instruments.
On some gigs, if I need to play arabian sounding groove on congas, I use bomba paterns. On my opinion, it sounds near eastern. Do you have an idea why?
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Postby tamboricua » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:16 pm

rumbero russo wrote:On some gigs, if I need to play arabian sounding groove on congas, I use bomba paterns.

Which Bomba patterns are you using?

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Postby rumbero russo » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:33 pm

Are there many bomba paterns, and have them each personal names? I did't find much enouth information about puertorican music. I'm shure there are many diferent ways to play this styles, like in Cuba are styles of guaguanco from diferent regions of the island.
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Postby tamboricua » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:43 pm

rumbero russo wrote:Are there many bomba paterns, and have them each personal names? I did't find much enouth information about puertorican music. I'm shure there are many diferent ways to play this styles, like in Cuba are styles of guaguanco from diferent regions of the island.

Exactly, there are plenty of different "seises de bomba" as they are commonly known, also with regional differences. The most known Bomba traditions are:

Bomba de Loíza

Bomba de Cangrejos-Santurce area.

Bomba del Sur-Ponce and nearby areas.

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Postby rumbero russo » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:19 am

Muchas gracias, amigo!
It takes much time, and money to travel around the world, to learn all beautiful rhythms of the Earth. :)
Now I know new names of the grooves. I'll try to find their sounds.
All the best
Dmitry
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Postby Smejmoon » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:49 am

where do you come from, Dmitry, rumbero roso?
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Postby rumbero russo » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:44 am

I am from Saint Pitersburg, Russia. Sure you've heard about our city. What interesting is in Riga about percussion music? What do you do there, play in some great latin band, I guess? Are there a lot of them in your city?
I hope that latin music is more popular in Latvia then here in Russia, if it is so, we are ready to go on tour now:)
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Postby tamboricua » Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:13 pm

rumbero russo wrote:Muchas gracias, amigo! Now I know new names of the grooves. I'll try to find their sounds.
All the best
Dmitry

Dmitry,

I think you didn't get it right. Those are regions in Puerto Rico which are the main locations where Bomba has been preserved with the passing of the years, not the names of the actual rhythms. For example, in the Loíza tradition only two styles has been preserved: Corvé and Seis Corrido. In the Cangrejos tradition: Sicá, Yubá, Holandés, Gracimá, etc.

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Postby rumbero russo » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:15 pm

Hola Jorge!
Now I understand, but anyway how to learn more about puertorican plena y bomba? I can here the difference between some similar rythms, but I don't know wich one is... You're asking me about what bomba do I play... ??? For example, the bomba wich is opening your site, does it have any personal name?
Thanks for being my first instructor of puertorican music :)
Sure there are any CD or DVD lessons about it or may be sites.
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Postby tamboricua » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:39 pm

rumbero russo wrote:Now I understand, but anyway how to learn more about puertorican plena y bomba?

Dmitry,

Take a look at the attached links. Both will direct you to an introductory article I wrote a while back about Plena. The one @ Rhythmweb includes some sound samples. Hopefully this will get your feet wet regarding Plena.


http://www.lpmusic.com/Play_Like_A_Pro/Tech_Support/plena.html


http://www.rhythmweb.com/jorge/plena.htm

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Postby rumbero russo » Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:19 am

Gracias, muy interesante!
I've saw you on LP web before, and already have got the partitures, will try find a prog to listen to.
I also have read obout, the best is "singing a newspaper" :D
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