Rumba cajones - what patterns to play on?

[rumbero russo]

OK,OK! Here's so different points of view
I'm sure there isn't any video to teach me everything I nead, so I have to use all the ways... And sure I will meet a real maestro to learn from, not sure then... May be then I go to Cuba.
In Moscow I've met some cuban guys to play rumba with. They were not the professional musicians at all, it was very difficult to get understanding, but I've got much from them. I can learn from everything.
Have a good weekend!

[JohnnyConga]

Rumbero Russo...I know it might be hard to learn from "amateurs",but pick up whatever u can until u can meet a "real" teacher of the drum. Besides my DVD that will be out,soon, I hope, you just may want to order the Videos by Kalani at Descarga.com or just goto Kalani.com...he has some good beginner videos....peace..and dosvydanya..."JC" Johnny Conga...

[rumbero russo]

Thanks JohnnyConga!
It will be interesting to get your video, sure you're the master of afrocuban percussion. Hope you'll let us know then it to be ready.
You know, I'm not wating for a "real teacher", my CD collection is the best one. On my opinion, you can't teach one, the one just can learn (if realy wants, of course).
I'm playing jazz trumpet for 10 years, I was looking for a real teacher in the begining, so I've found him last year in Moscow. All that time before I used to learn from Dizzy, Lee and other great masters
In general the teacher is just to get a basic technique, all the rest one can get by oneself with an aspiration...
Here are some good percussionists in SPb and Moscow, I've took some tips from them, but they are too busy and jealous to give some information ???
That's wy I'm glad to be here in this forum
All the best!

[rumbero russo]

I've found one pattern of guarapachanguero in e-net
I'll try to note it..

l1+2+3+4+l1+2+3+4+l1+2+3+4+l1+2+3+4+l

l-TTT-TTTlT-TO-O-Tl-TTT-TTTlT-TO-O-Tl
l-RLR-RLRlR-LR-R-Ll etc... tres golpes

lT-TT-BBBlB-TT-T-TlO-TO-BBBlB-TT-T-Tl
lR-LR-LRLlR-LR-L-LlR-LR-LRLlRLR-L-Ll salidor

Can you decode it? - is a pause, and I think there must be some slaps. I'll try to play this one, not sure of it, but what is the basic rythmic figure of guarapachanguero?
Wish you all the best

[windhorse]

Yeah, we play the basses and tones exactly in the spots where you notated them..

[rumbero russo]

I tryed to play this rhythm on conga and tumba alone (I mean guarapachanguero). It's pretty good! It sounds like guaguanco changed its tumba y conga functions. I've heard it before on Eddie Bobe's Central Park Rumba. I vas very surprised about this track (number 3 on the CD).
I'm waiting impatiently to play the guarapachanguero together with our rumba conjunto. And how I love this bass tones sounds, I think it must be a large cajone to play it.
Peace and happiness to everyone!

[ralph]

Eddie Bobe's "Central Park Rumba" is a good cd to listen to for an example of guarapachanguero from NY, especially the 1st track "Tata" with Alberto Serrano on quinto and cajon...
The beautiful thing about rumba nowadays is that is constantly evolving, not only you have the guarapachanguero which was started by Los Chinitos and El Goyo, innovated by Pancho Quinto and Yoruba Andabo, Clave y Guaguanco, further developed by Maximino Duquesne, now you have groups like Irosso Obba where you actually have to really listen to to figure out what they are doing, its that complex, la rumba no es como ayer....as for the cajones they are very unique instruments that have a very unique sound...listen to Johnny Conga...."Cajon Espiritual" @ http://www.earthcds.com, i don't even have it but will get it soon................

[rumbero russo]

Oh, yes, Ralph! This one is my favorite rumba CD. As for other rumberos you've listed, I know only Clave y Guaguanco and Yoruba Andabo. I asked for more names of rumba nueva on another topic. I'll try to find the records you recomend me.
Thanks, I realy crazy about rumba, and need more information.
All the best!