Congas for sale!

[JohnnyConga]

Vaya Dario ...hey u want to trade 2 black Lp classic"28" black congas for those Eco-tones?>....I have 3 of them and would trade mine for those Eco-'s.....Como Anda mi socio?,,,How's Miami treating you ? and do u have Ronnie Loreto's phone number for me to call him? please....Cuidate...tu socio >>"JC" Johnny Conga...

[pcastag]

How does that birch drum sound? I always wondered why cats didn't use maple and birch for congas. I understand oak was used because it is what the original drum barrels were made out of. Moperc is making congas from maple, my buddy has some of the original mahogany ones, from what i've heard they sound much better than the maples.
PC
PS Jay told me that the number one problem with drums shrinking was due to the heaters used up north. Don't have that problem here in Houston!
PC



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[Facundo]

How does that birch drum sound? I always wondered why cats didn't use maple and birch for congas. I understand oak was used because it is what the original drum barrels were made out of. Moperc is making congas from maple, my buddy has some of the original mahogany ones, from what i've heard they sound much better than the maples.
PC
PS Jay told me that the number one problem with drums shrinking was due to the heaters used up north. Don't have that problem here in Houston!
PC

PC,
Question, are you sure Moperc made mahogany drums at one time? Their Cuban series, which is their top of the line, is made with maple wood but they have a mahogany tint. All of their other modles are made with ash. I agree that mahogany drums have excellent tonality but the reason I raise this question is that maple is considered to be an excellent "tone wood" as is mahogany by the string instrament craft. Each has its' own unique tonal qualities. I wonder if your buddy is confusing the sound of maple drums with mahogany tint with Moperc's made with ash.

It may be a mistake on my part in taking the lead from the string craft in choosing the best wood for congas but so far many of their "tone woods of choise" do make good sounding drums. What is interesting is that oak and ash are not considered to be tone woods. While they work well for drums, interms of projection and depth, they don't compare to drums made with tone woods. Over the years I've played a lot of different drums. There are a number of things that made a great sounding drum and the wood type is at the top of the list.

Best regards,
Facundo

[yusef33]

Big up to Doctorumba on his input. In my opinion Junior Tirado made the best drum in the world. However, unfortunate natural life altering circumstances has overcome our masterdrum craftsman (JUNIOR TIRADO). The last I heard was that he was striken by a stroke and has been in a coma for several months. If you want to purchase a set of drums made utilizing the same methods that Junior used then I would suggest you guys check out a new establishment called ISLA PERCUSSIONS. The company is based in So. California and is operated by a grassroots rumbero and business minded people with great attention to the Public Relations. These guys treat drummers with the utmost repect and really produce a conga drum that sounds incredible. The staves are cut to shape just like Junior's drums and the hardware are of stainless steel. You never have to worry about chipped paint or chrome finish. These drums are beautiful. I own a set of three (quinto , conga, tumba). These drums have been used in all genres of music. Rumbas outdoor and indoor, salsa or timba and Acoustic Jazz settings. These drums just sing. I recommend the ISLA drums to anyone that are looking for a superior sound and are also interested in quality handcrafted craftsmanship. Here is a phone number and website that you can checkout for more info. Mario @ 310.916.3425 / http://www.islapercussions.com



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[Facundo]

I own Skin on Skin,two Oak (conga,tumba) and one birch conga.The only one Jay ever made from birch.I haven't had any problems,probably because I live in Miami and the temperatue is warm.I have friends in NYC that claim that their Skin on Skin have shrunk on them and that Jay had to adjust the outter bands.This is probably because of the cold.I also have three Junior Tirados made from Cahoba (mahogany) they are about 35 yrs. old and have never spilt or separated.Junior drums are not steam bent and if properly maintained, they'll never split.Jay steam bends and sometimes the wood itself wants to straighten out,that's why it shrinks.
I owned many different Gon Bops sets and with time they all splitted on me.I had a lesser problem with Valje.Cuban Sonocs sound great but they split with time,it has to do with the low quality of the glue used in Cuba.I had a set of Timbas,super tumba and conga and they never split on me I ended up selling them.
The main thing is for makers to stand behind their products.I know Cali (JCR) does,so did Junior and also Jay.Is a pisser to spend "mucho billete" and then for makers to turn their backs. Saludos, Dario

Hey Guys,

Aside from the method of making the drums and the builder standing behind his product, how the drums are stored is very important. I live in the northeast part of the States, so we get all the seasons. Cold weather is by far the worst because of the indoor heating. Hot air heat is dry and affects everything in a house made of wood. I keep my drums in padded bags so my drums have more time to adjust to the temperature and dryness of the household air. Bottom line, keep your drums in cases when not being used.

Best regards,
Facundo

[pcastag]

PC,
Question, are you sure Moperc made mahogany drums at one time? Their Cuban series, which is their top of the line, is made with maple wood but they have a mahogany tint. All of their other modles are made with ash. I agree that mahogany drums have excellent tonality but the reason I raise this question is that maple is considered to be an excellent "tone wood" as is mahogany by the string instrament craft. Each has its' own unique tonal qualities. I wonder if your buddy is confusing the sound of maple drums with mahogany tint with Moperc's made with ash.

It may be a mistake on my part in taking the lead from the string craft in choosing the best wood for congas but so far many of their "tone woods of choise" do make good sounding drums. What is interesting is that oak and ash are not considered to be tone woods. While they work well for drums, interms of projection and depth, they don't compare to drums made with tone woods. Over the years I've played a lot of different drums. There are a number of things that made a great sounding drum and the wood type is at the top of the list.

Best regards,
Facundo

Yes, I am 100% sure. When Moperc first came out the cuban custom line was made out of mahogany. they probably changed the wood because mahogany is hard to find and expensive ( the good quality mahogany). The conga maker told my buddy that he modeled his drums after Juniors, and I have to say they are definitely the best sounding drums I've heard (aside from some old Sonocs), even next to my skin on skins. The same guy sold his Skin on skin oaks to buy them. I doubt that the current maple mopercs sound the same, and from what I've heard are not as good as the original mahogany drums.
PC

[Doctorumba]

MY BIRCH SKIN ON SKIN SOUNDS AND LOOKS GREAT,IS A BIT HEAVY.I TRIED FOR JAY TO MAKE ME A MATCHING TUMBA BUT IT NEVER HAPPENED,HE CLAIMED BIRCH IS TO HARD AND THE STAVES BROKE SOME OF HIS BLADES.MY JUNIORS ARE OVER 35 YRS. OLD (JUNIOR MADE THEM FOR JULIAN CABRERA,WHO PLAYED WITH MACHITO AND CHARLIE PALMIERI) AND I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THEM.IN MY OPINION,JUNIOR WAS THE M. JORDAN AMONG CONGA MAKERS,STILL IN A COMA GOING ON 2 1/2 YRS. SALUDOS, DARIO :laugh:

[Doctorumba]

I HAVE ATTACHED A PICTURE OF MY BIRCH SKIN ON SKIN ALONG WITH MY TWO OAKS AND A CUBAN STYLE CONGA WITH UNKNOW MAKER.THE BICH IS THE ONE UP FRONT.
I'M SELLING THE CUBAN STYLE TUMBADORA AS WE SPEAK,IT'S ON EBAY,IF INTERESTED CLICK "TUMBADORA CUBANA". SALUDOS, DARIO

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