Replacing Skins - Pre-mounted skins

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Postby jomo_sundiata » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:50 pm

when replacing pre-mounted skins, is it necessary to prep them in any way, or do you just slap it on

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Postby Bacalao » Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:17 am

Hi Jomo,

Where do you live in Atl? I live in Stockbridge and maybe we could get together sometime.

Anyway back to the subject. Rarely will a pre-mounted head fit correctly on a persons particular drum. Try dry fitting (test fit) and see how the bearing edge of your drum seats the pre-mounted head. If it's off or lop sided on your drum, what you need to do is let the head sit in water for a few hours to allow the skin to get somewhat pliable. You go about this by turning the head upside down, like a pie crust. Ensure that the pre-mounted head is on a level surface and fill it with water approx. half way up from the bearing edge to the flesh hoop. Let the head sit undisturbed for a few hours or until the head is pliable and will be able to re-shape itself to your drum. Do not allow the skin around the flesh hoop to become moist, it's very important to only fill the head approx. half way up with water. Check on the head from time to time to get it just pliable enough for it to conform itself to your drums bearing edge.

Hope this helps, and let me know if you want to get together, I don't know of anyone in the Atlanta metro that plays congas.
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Postby Tonio » Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:35 am

If its a premounted skin modeled for the drum you are reskining, all you need to do is soak the underside (fill it with luke warm water) for about 30 minutes to an hour. It depends on the thickness.
If its not necessarily modeled to fit your conga, but is of the standrd size place the head(skin) inside the rim. If it fits , you're half way there. If it appears the top end (not the hoop part) does not fit exactly, soak it till the bearing edge shape is soft. It won't totally loose the shape , but should be pliable. But be careful not to push the bearing edge part, for you could mar or indent the skin.
also be sure there is enough that the lugs will reach after mounted, because getting the pre crease around the hoop is almost impossible.
Hope that descriptive enough.

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Postby jomo_sundiata » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:35 pm

well, the skin i'm using is modeled for the drum I have, but even with that it seems I'll have to make sure it's an even fit, if not, then I'll just have to prep it. Sounds easy enough.

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Postby Jongo » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:52 pm

If you have it mounted on your drum but it is not quite fitting exactly right you can wrap a wet towel around it, around the bearing edge and the moisture from the towel and the rim holding it in place will help it get set and fit more precisely on your conga. I will admit that strategy is not mine it came to me from Isaac of Funky Tradition the JCR rep. Thanks Isaac.
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Postby jomo_sundiata » Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:46 pm

well, I placed the skin on the drum and it fits, but the rim won't fit around the flesh hoop. I haven't done the water treatment yet. Will filling it halfway with water fix this problem?
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Postby zwar » Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:48 pm

ho

is the rim too large or too small? does the rim belong to the drumshell originally?
best thing would be if you gave the complete dates. what kind of drumshell, what rims what skins...
anyway, to put water into the skin will not solve the problem.

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Postby Diceman » Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:12 pm

Hi Pilgrims,

There are two things that need to fit when putting a prelapped skin on a drum.

1 the part of the skin which fits over the bearing edge, which can be remedied by wetting only the flat face and the bearing part of the skin. Warm water or wet towel.

2 the part which rolls around the hoop and fits in the tension ring, which you can do nothing with if it is too small. If it is a little too large, you could try looking for high spots and easing those with sandpaper, or see if the lugs have bent inwards preventing the hoop going in under the tension ring. Some pliers, a rag and a little elbow grease will sort it out. If its way too large it will be as much use as a chocolate teapot.

Hope that helps

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Postby jomo_sundiata » Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:20 pm

well, I purchased a used 11in. LP aspire drum. I thought it could use a new skin, so I purchased an 11in LP rawhide skin(#lp265a). I didn't think it would make a difference, as long as it was the same size. anyway, the rim is slightly smaller than the flesh hoop. I really didn't think the water treatment would solve the problem, so I figured I'd just thought I'd ask for some guidance. I think I'll try some of diceman's suggestions.

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Postby Tonio » Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:24 pm

You need LP640B for your 11"aspire .

Aspire are smaller than LP's main range drums.

T

http://www.anydrum.com/Merchan....GAHEADS

For any reskin, the hoop needs to fit inside of the crown/rim with some play(skin thickness)




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Postby Thebreeze » Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:04 am

I have done exactly what you are asking about to some of my drums. As long as you have selected the proper pre formed skin for your drum, do exactly what Bacalao said to do. That is exactly the way I do it and you cannot go wrong.
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Postby jomo_sundiata » Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:51 pm

Well, I ended returning the skin that I purchased, and then got myself an aspire skin... it was just what the doctor ordered...

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