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Postby bongosnotbombs » Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:50 pm

I came across the photo in a book I recently read.
A Love Supreme..about John Coltranes famous recording.

It's an excellent book, and is associated with the delux
edition of A Love Supreme, newly remastered and containing
never before heard versions of the song..

anyways, here's John Coltrane performing with a conga a tamborine
and what they call a tamboura, which it may be, but looks more like a
bata? to me....

I don't know much about tambora's, but arent they played with sticks and the same size on both ends?

I thought it was an interesting photo, anyone know anything about the percussionists?


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Postby bongosnotbombs » Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:16 am

Really looks like a bata though does'nt it, one with
string tuning..

Any guesses on the make of the conga?




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Postby OLSONGO » Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:36 am

Man look at that !!! 2 upright bases, drums, conga, bata(iya),
piano , tambourine, tenor sax, soprano sax,
Jazz completing the circle.
Where and what bus stop did Jazz got off?

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Postby bongosnotbombs » Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:26 pm

Sadly, John Coltrane died the year after this picture was taken,
so that bus stopped there with him.
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Postby m_three10 » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:32 pm

Pharoah sanders on the tenor... he was the man...

two bass players is also an amazing component to add to a band something that no one is really messing around with today... yet.
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Postby bongosnotbombs » Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:17 pm

Sadly, John and Pharoh, close friends of each other,
passed within less than two years of each other...

so many of the best and the brightest go so young.



(edit: sorry, I meant to say Eric Dolphy, not Pharoah Sanders)




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Postby tfunk » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:13 am

Hey,
Just to let you know, Pharaoh Sanders is still very much alive. I saw him in concert in 2003... still amazing!!

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Postby congamyk » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:02 am

I wish jazz was as open-minded today.
John Coltrane was a true jazz artist, always pushing the borders, always opening up the sound, exploring depth and texture.


If Coltrane was alive today his band would probably consists of but not limited to:
Drums
Bass
Keys
Congas
Timbales
DJ/Turntable
Cello
Tabla
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Postby bongosnotbombs » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:55 pm

tfunk wrote:Hey,
Just to let you know, Pharaoh Sanders is still very much alive. I saw him in concert in 2003... still amazing!!

Peace

Yeah your right, what was I thinking?

I got confused with Pharoah Sanders and Eric Dolphy
there for a minute...

My post should mention Eric Dolphy not Pharoah Sanders, my mistake........
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Postby OLSONGO » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:35 pm

I would think Coltrane if alive today would be super busy , every other musician wanting him to be on his CD, and for sure he would be on the road either with his group, including his son Rovi , or with Carlos Santana who would take him on the road, every chance he got, Santana holds a great deal of respect for him, and with whom he would probably make more money; due to his mainstream popularity in comparison to Jazz. And probably kick the s--t out of Kenny G and Dave Koss ( with his horn) in some green room :D and show up on youtube. That i would love to see.

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Postby JohnnyConga » Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:49 pm

You u can chek out "Trane" on youtube.com....'JC" Johnny Conga....
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Postby OLSONGO » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:24 pm

I Know bro... I was just making reference to him and his ( I wish ) green room encounter with Kenny g and Dave Koss . :D

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Postby Charangaman » Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:06 am

m_three10 wrote:Pharoah sanders on the tenor... he was the man...

two bass players is also an amazing component to add to a band something that no one is really messing around with today... yet.

The late Miguel Anga Diaz was doing some really interesting stuff on 5 Tumbas with Orlando Cachiato Lopez on upright, sometimes even laying down a bass line of sorts on the tumba's for Orlando to roll around, under and over....
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Postby bongosnotbombs » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:36 pm

Charangaman wrote:
m_three10 wrote:Pharoah sanders on the tenor... he was the man...

two bass players is also an amazing component to add to a band something that no one is really messing around with today... yet.

The late Miguel Anga Diaz was doing some really interesting stuff on 5 Tumbas with Orlando Cachiato Lopez on upright, sometimes even laying down a bass line of sorts on the tumba's for Orlando to roll around, under and over....

and to complete your train of thought....

Miguel Anga Diaz also covers John Coltrane's most famous recording "A Love Supreme" on his solo album Echua Minga.
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Postby davidpenalosa » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:09 pm

If I remember correctly, John Coltrane and maybe some other musicans were on LSD while recording "A Love Supreme". On Conrad Herwig's CD The Latin Side of John Coltrane, there's a great version of "A Love Supreme" with Milton Cardona reciting Lukumi prayers.
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