Drum throne

[Tonio]

Since there has been a topic of sitting vs standing, I thought I'd bring up the throne question (in the correct forum LOL).
My throne is a saddle type -notround. Its rather old and the vinyl is cracking alittle. Rather foamy type support.
Maybe that why back hurts for playing 2+ hour gigs? I do have back problems so it is a consideration.

What do you use? Any known good ones roc n soc etc?

I want to go with a great one to not compromise the ol' back, please make your recommendations for good support/comfort and durability.

T

[Whopbamboom]

I have a Roc-n-soc nitro throne, and I like it very much. I think it's quite comfortable. But I also have back problems, and I have to watch my posture-- that is going to be a given no matter what throne you use.

I'm curious about the thrones that have a cutout in them to relieve pressue on the prostate/tailbone/etc. Anyone have one of those they can comment on?

[OLSONGO]

I have a roc-n-sock also its very comfy, and I use it when I want to play more than 3 congas and at times I also play standing up and in this case is with a Lp craddle 3 conga stand. I also have back problems, but mostly from lifting heavy things and not thinking. Strengthen those abs and back muscles my bros, thats the best solution.

Paz Olsongo

[Mike]

Strengthen those abs and back muscles my bros, thats the best solution.

You may say that again, Olsongo, I agree! Having bought a rather expensive saddle throne didn´t relieve my back pain either - of course not...
I might as well go on using my hard ´n´simple 4-legged one (don´t you dare to insinuate anything immoral here ) which is plain wood - the surface is pretty much the same size as my self-made resonator disk. With correct posture I can play for quite some without any problems on the simple stool, well I wouldn´t call it a throne really :;):
But of course the saddle type thing isn´t bad at all - it´s only that it doesn´t relieve any back pain - only people can do that - themselves.
Best

[Congadelica]

Ive had a bak problem for years too , I find standing playing easier than seated . But that goes against the grain I suppose when you consider most player prefer seated playing .

I use one of my dinner table chairs when playing seated , I have looked at a few drum thrones and will probibly invest in one soon . so much to choose from though very confusing , Ill keep my eye on this thread for tips .



marco

[jorge]

I like the Roc n Soc round better than the saddle shaped one. I haven't tried the RnS backrest, and have never felt the need for it.

Olsongo's suggestion to strengthen abs and back muscles is right on target, that will do more than any fancy throne. Also, be very careful lifting your and other's band equipment, you may not feel a strain when you lift, but lifting wrong can contribute a lot to your back pain. Lift with your legs, not your back, ie, keep your back as vertical as possible when you lift, keep the object you are lifting as close to your spine as you can, and squat and straighten your legs to do the lift. Don't bend your knees over 90 degrees, and get help with anything that is too heavy or awkward to follow the above advice. A few months of careful weight training for your back and abs will help a lot.

The "nitro" spring on the RnS is unnecessary and probably won't help your back pain at all. It probably contributes to instability of your spine when you are playing and may even throw your timing off if you tend to bounce up and down a little when you play. The RnS is cheaper without it anyway.

[OLSONGO]

Remember that what we are fighting is GRAVITY, as we sit there and in most times with a bad posture... those vertebrate bones are settling down on the disk and applying pressure on the nerves, thus creating pain. So another thing that I recommend is a light back brace or an elastic tummy toner , nothing too cumbersome; this also helps in burning that extra fat that contributes too weak muscles around the waist area. Its uncomfortable at first, but you get used to it.

Paz Olsongo

[Tonio]

Thanks for info.
So nitro type is not good in the long run? I suppose it could be worse by the bouncing. Plus the if the nitro goes out no way to adjust right?
I agree about keeping the waist area in shape is good.

T

[jorge]

Tonio,
I don't play drumset, and can't comment on whether the nitro spring feature helps or hurts if you have a kick drum pedal that you are working hard. Maybe it helps, I believe the RnS was designed mainly for trap drummers.

For congas, I see no benefit, and several potential downsides that I mentioned. Well, maybe if you play congas on a bumpy subway train for a living, but then it is heavy to carry and who will give you money when you are sitting on your $150 drum throne?

[Whopbamboom]

Sitting on a Roc-n-Soc nitro throne is NOTHING like sitting on a spring!!! They aren't like that at all-- they don't really bounce up and down much (if at all-- I'll have to pay close attention next time I'm sitting on mine to see if it does at all), and certainly does not throw my timing off. It's a nice firm seat. What the nitro shock does do, is allow for quick and easy height adjustment of the seat.

[Tonio]

Jorge -too funny, I can picture that on a train/subay LOL

WBB cut out? Which one are you refering to? The Pearl double position one?

T

[Whopbamboom]

Tonio-- I was probably looking at the Pearl ergonomic throne:

http://cgi.ebay.com/PEARL-D....iewItem

I was actually thinking of ordering a replacement top and seeing if it would bolt onto my Roc-n-Soc nitro frame.

[Tonio]

WBB, thats the one I was looking at too, among others.
http://www.samash.com/catalog....ch=true

You can use it in either direction. The only thing is I don't like 4 legs, It gets in the way for bongos. I was thinking Pork Pie hat throne, but they are really hgh. Or the TAMA.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/compare....=440791

T

[jorge]

When I played a conga in the store, the nitro RnS moved up and down at least a half inch more than just the padding compression. When I lifted the drum up to hit the bass, the nitro RnS compressed down even more. I found that it had too much up/down movement while I was playing and I had to consciously correct my timing for it. Then again, I am used to playing congas on park benches that have no give at all. I bought the non-nitro round RnS model and it is great.



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[Whopbamboom]

I guess there is a little movement on the nitro throne... I just used mine again tonight and paid attention. However, it only seemed to move downward just 1/2" TO 3/4" when I sit on it, and then no more. It gives me a nice firm seat (though perhaps it moves SLIGHTLY and I never noticed it) when in use. It has never given me any trouble, and feels nice and snug to me. I honestly never noticed it move up and down when I remain sitting with all my weight. Perhaps a particular player's body weight can yield different results??