Lp Garfield N.J

[caballoballo]

Saludos, just finish conditioning this old boy. The label said Garfield N.J but I do not know how old it is or the type of wood used in the manufacturing. May be Leedy could shine some light on that. Also just use it for rehearsal with a small band I am playing with & everybody liked the sound. The skin on the Macho is a 3A and the Hembra skin was install by Timbas Del Valle . I was going to add some other color to the wood but after some thinking prefered to keep it like it is to retaing his originality.

[Anonimo]

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[pcastag]

those are cool, same design as the Palissades park shells, I've got a garfield set too with the cuban bottoms but has the different shell design, probably siam oak, bought them new in 85 for 110.

[Psych1]

I was told, by LP workers many years ago, that by the time MC closed the Palisades Park factories LP had already moved all production, except some metal work, overseas. Garfield was/is for offices and warehousing and some R & D assembly. The "Made in Thailand" sticker just wasn't required by US Customs for the first few years.

[Anonimo]

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[Omelenko1]

Garfield operation came in the early 80's. In the 70's he was in Palisades Park, in the mid to late 60's in Maywood N.J. This is what he stated in the interview at my show on WDNA. Humble Cubans like Patato made him a millionare, took advantage of the Cuban embargo. Mongo didn't want nothing to do with LP. Ray Barretto walked away and didn't want to bother with LP also. Jerry Gonzalez also, he was a Junior Tirado faithful till today, today he embraces Matt Ritmos as well. Patato died in Cleaveland, he could have been flown to NYC and given the best medical treatment possible and LP shold have picked up the tab, Patato spent a few months in an Ohio hospital before he died. My 2 cents.

[pcastag]

Might have been too fragile or sick to be moved. Regardless Cohen definitely did a lot to bring Latin Percussion to the forefront, of course without the great players he woudn't have been ble to do what he did but you're making it sound like he took advantage of Patato and then abandoned him.

[Mr. Conga]

Nice !!!! bongo Caballoballo, and i believe u it sounds great with those skins u put on...thos 3 A and del Valle...

Y a pasa el Colombian connection papa?.....ur a 3A player 4 life i see .....

[Mr. Conga]

As for the Patatoe issue, Omelenko, i agree with you 177% with you....
Martin was very maverick business man....fue muy astuto, al firmar a siertos artistas, por casi nada, at least he should have been faithfull to his frienship to the players. He has prolifirated the most from the latin music, i dont thing the one that has upheld latin music, or latin percussions the most. Because the artist is the one that give life to the music, and he is not a musician, with all respect to him. The Fania ALL Stars put latin salsa, rumba, and percussions where it is today. They are the ones that made it world wide music, mainstream at one point in era.

Omelenko perhaps Barreto didnt sign a loyalty contract to Cohen. But he put those Lps In front of thousands, in the Yankee stadium, and all trough out the world. He didnt carry his SOS congas all the time very rarely, he used Lp's in most of his concerts. And i think Cohen becoming a multi millionaire, should have taken care of the LP players, financially, and medically. He should have cared , when they needed hes help. He should have shown as much interest in the professional artist as much as when he wanted them to take play Lp percussions on stage, exclusively all over the world.

[pcastag]

Interesting, I never heard anything before about LP mistreating their endorsers.

[Omelenko1]

Patato lived in poverty here in Miami in the mid to late 80's, I'm a witness to that because I would drive him around to places. I think the deal with the Little Giant was one conga set every once in a while, not even every year. Patato being the humble free spirit he was and with no legal representation went along. Before anyone Cohen had set his eyes on Mongo, but Mongo being business savy, asked for a substantial percentage of the company. You never saw Mongo's name or photo in an LP catalog, he had a civil law suit against the co. The company has made millions, Patato, their world ambassado,r lived below poverty lebel when here in Miami. Patato died in Cleaveland Ohio, alone in a hospital where they didn't speak rumba or Spanish. You fly the man in a medical plane to NYC or PR, where he had multiple friends and family, after all, his name, publicity photos and videos made plenty of "dinero" for the co.

Dario

[Anonimo]

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[pcastag]

Patato lived in poverty here in Miami in the mid to late 80's, I'm a witness to that because I would drive him around to places. I think the deal with the Little Giant was one conga set every once in a while, not even every year. Patato being the humble free spirit he was and with no legal representation went along. Before anyone Cohen had set his eyes on Mongo, but Mongo being business savy, asked for a substantial percentage of the company. You never saw Mongo's name or photo in an LP catalog, he had a civil law suit against the co. The company has made millions, Patato, their world ambassado,r lived below poverty lebel when here in Miami. Patato died in Cleaveland Ohio, alone in a hospital where they didn't speak rumba or Spanish. You fly the man in a medical plane to NYC or PR, where he had multiple friends and family, after all, his name, publicity photos and videos made plenty of "dinero" for the co.

Dario

That's sad considering his name is on thousands of LP drums. You figure he'd get something. I know being an endorser isn't always what it's cracked up to be, but geez, tough being an icon in a field of music and dying broke, happens to many though.
PC

[Anonimo]

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[caballoballo]

[quote="Mr. Conga"]Nice !!!! bongo Caballoballo, and i believe u it sounds great with those skins u put on...thos 3 A and del Valle...

Saludos Mr Conga, thus far is coming to sound better since I have been using him to rehearse over and over. The Hembra still need some tune and detune to settle and cure because it is brand new,she still have a little ring. The 3A was an old skin which I have use it before on other Bongos I own. One thing I have notice is that the Macho is very easy to tune to a high pitch.

I did not know of the struggle of some top of the line musician with Martin Cohen. It is a shame.
Thanks everyone for their comments.