Oral traditions, Indentured servitude - Primitive Cutlures and Musical tradition

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Postby clownmanus2000 » Tue Oct 19, 2004 2:55 am

I am a religious student and have questions on afr- cuban traditions related to the passing on of musical insight via any specific cultural dogma, such as bartering ones labor via any religious or sociatal tradition.
As one who regards rythmic expression as a religious experience and one that "would" be shared freely ,as opposed to exchanged for "mammon". IM curious as how specific tribal /religious trends have or have not carried over from earlyer times to the present.
Oral traditions? socialsexual roles in musical life,
Eastern devotional practices incorporated into modern folk mucic education.?
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Postby JohnnyConga » Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:41 am

The Drum is mentioned in the Bible and my favorite Psalm is Psalm 18, for the musician, check it out. Yes in Africa, tribal drummers must come from only the "Chief Drummer", in other words, he must have all sons for children in order to pass on the lineage of the tribal language of their drum to the mext generation. The "Chief Drummer" also knows the "secret" to haveing just "boys" and no girls born to him. Woman playing drums is looked at mostly as a "negative",suppossedly due to their monthly period, it dissallows them the ability to "touch" the drums, or perform for Sacred rituals.Though now there are all girl "tambolera"groups, in Mantanzas.I was told this "secret" myself by an African drum devotee in New York City many years ago. I have seen "Chief" drummers have 10 to 19 sons in a row, for their tribal village. So Religion in Africa, Cuba, Haiti, and other places, does play a part in their drumming for sure. I learned some of my drumming from "Griots" who "passed down" Sacred rhythms to me,only after being "tested" with a drum and scrutinized very carefully to be "spiritually sound". Very Good subject, you have brought to mind, Thank you.....anybody else, wanna drum in?... :D I will expound on this more later........"JC" Johnny Conga...... :;):
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Postby clownmanus2000 » Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:29 am

i am currently seeking full time participation with a tibal system of percussion condition. such as youve described,
I am closely assiciated with Indian cultures and was hoping to find some cliques durring my upcomming trip to new orleans that might imprint some afro systems on my conciousness.
Hey what do you know about modern "continental US" drum cults. ?
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Postby NaVajO » Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:18 pm

Oh man! Stay away from cults! You can love your drums without being fanatic or whatever:)
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Postby clownmanus2000 » Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:53 pm

ha ha, thanks NaVajO,
im interested in liberating myself from the material rhelm, i regard many of the "extreme faith' communities as purposfull , though! scary.
Where can you find people who drum constently every day that are not professionals nore nomadic hippies?. thats what im getting at.
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Postby NaVajO » Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:32 pm

Well, I'm one:)
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Postby JohnnyConga » Sat Nov 06, 2004 6:39 pm

3 places where they drum Everyday would be Cuba and West Africa(Senegal-Guinee-Nigeria,etc.) and New York city......"JC" Johnny Conga...... :;):
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Postby NaVajO » Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:15 pm

By the way I don't think it's possible to liberate oneself from the material rhealm, we just gotta take the world as it comes:)
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Postby JohnnyConga » Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:34 am

Tibetan Monks have "liberated" themselves from the material realm for centuries......."JC" Johnny Conga.......PS>and there are others that live in the Amazon..... :;):
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Postby NaVajO » Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:17 am

tibetan monks don't do congas:)
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Postby JohnnyConga » Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:44 pm

No but they have their own "traditional" instruments which includes a small drum at times......."JC" Johnny Conga..... :;):
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Postby changolaye » Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:55 pm

as for getting into "cults" navajo yes i agrea u dont have 2 join em but u should reserch and respect it remember you r playin a instrument born in africa for the porpouse of worshiping these dieties so u should know wat ur getting into if your gonna play these rythems so a lil more respect and no there not cults there dogmas a cult is wen 10 people 20 practice something these traditions r practiced by millions all over ther world by many nationalities also not only africans and the diaspora thank u....
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Postby changolaye » Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:58 pm

altho drum cults dont know about that sounds a lil wierd 2 me do some real reserch into afro caribean religious drums and so on
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